Gun Control & RKBA

friendly_iconoclast

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46. You 'rested your case' by using logical fallacies? Shades of 'Hitchen's razor':

Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:58 PM

Aug 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens's_razor

Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor asserting that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, the claim is unfounded and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it. It is named, echoing Occam's razor, for the journalist and writer Christopher Hitchens, who, in a 2003 Slate article, formulated it thus: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." The dictum also appears in God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything, a book by Hitchens published in 2007.

Hitchens's razor is actually an English translation of the Latin proverb "Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur", (What is freely asserted is freely deserted.)

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Rio 2016: top American Olympic shooter Kim Rhode attacks gun control laws [View all] appal_jack Aug 2016 OP

I have to show ID to buy ammo MattP Aug 2016 #1

It's more than just showing an ID ... NashuaDW Aug 2016 #5

No it does not add a significant amount of time to a regular clean buyer grubbs Aug 2016 #53

of course that is not the same as a background check is it? Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #6

Apply that to voting - a less constitutionally protected right. N/T beevul Aug 2016 #20

Well, two days and still no answer. beevul Aug 2016 #43

Oh well MFM008 Aug 2016 #2

Lets also require an ID for voting Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #33

She wants to live in the times of Annie Oakley??? Dawson Leery Aug 2016 #3

so you are calling an Olympic competitor Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #7

And she would be more than welcome to move here. n/t oneshooter Aug 2016 #11

Reading is Fundamental, my friend. appal_jack Aug 2016 #13

Meet the guy who wrote and first introduced those new gejohnston Aug 2016 #15

What do you call people who support the convicted gun-runner Leland Yee? Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #25

So, she has to show ID to purchase hundreds or thousands of rounds stopbush Aug 2016 #4

It is a full background check Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #8

The real issue is the cost and time on the store Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #32

The gun-control extremists wreck any opportunity at reasonable measures like UBCs... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #26

The gun-control advocates are simply responding to th gun lobby which will stopbush Aug 2016 #27

If you read about the history of gun-control, the extremist controllers set the tone... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #30

Right. Sure they are... beevul Aug 2016 #36

It's the extreme restricions that make RKBA advocates so distrustful of gun control. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #40

The new laws in California are pretty overbearing bluestateguy Aug 2016 #9

Maybe she should stay in Rio mwrguy Aug 2016 #10

Why should a gold-medal winning Olympian abandon her own country? appal_jack Aug 2016 #12

or Brazil gejohnston Aug 2016 #16

Or consider Mexico, only 1 gun store in the whole country, total gun control very safe there DonP Aug 2016 #18

Brazil's gun laws are stricter than the UK's or Australia's gejohnston Aug 2016 #14

But Brazil isn't industrialized enough to have them counted as having a higher... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #19

You would... beevul Aug 2016 #21

Of course I would be happy to trade a teabagger for a progressive mwrguy Aug 2016 #22

Thats an answer to aquestion that I didn't ask. beevul Aug 2016 #23

Really? sarisataka Aug 2016 #29

That sound a lot like "Send 'em back to ______!" Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #31

Its nice to be able to make your own ammunition... virginia mountainman Aug 2016 #17

Reuters is virulently anti-gun. THAT'S the reason she expected "gun control" to be more important Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #24

What did those skeet ever do to her? underpants Aug 2016 #28

She sees her future as an NRA shill. anamandujano Aug 2016 #34

Right. HOW DARE she confront dishonest political theater. NT pablo_marmol Aug 2016 #35

Are parents grieving dead children dishonest political theater? anamandujano Aug 2016 #37

No, but gratuitous mention of dead children is. It's known as 'appealing to emotion' or Lovejoying: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #39

"gratuitous" anamandujano Aug 2016 #41

You've present a far better case... beevul Aug 2016 #45

You 'rested your case' by using logical fallacies? Shades of 'Hitchen's razor': friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #46

. anamandujano Aug 2016 #49

So far, thats your most "inteligent" argument DonP Aug 2016 #50

And, in the meantime, I own a Kalashnikov and remain quite sane, thank you... derby378 Aug 2016 #55

They were at the rnc. beevul Aug 2016 #48

"I'm not interested in debating this crap with you any further..........." pablo_marmol Aug 2016 #54

"(T)he NRA pays better." They do? And how did you come to know this? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #38

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ anamandujano Aug 2016 #42

So, no evidence. Did you perchance attend the College of It Stands to Reason?: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #44

Oh you mean when you don't have any proof, just make shit up DonP Aug 2016 #47

Lol, no answer as usual when challenged Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #52

Color me surprised liberal N proud Aug 2016 #51