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Gun Control & RKBA

needledriver

(836 posts)

17. Two things-

Reply to SheilaT (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 12:42 PM

Jul 2016

Nowhere do I yawn at the serious and tragic nature of the subject of homicide by firearm.

I agree - every single day people die from firearms. My point is that every single day even more people's lives are saved because they are able to use firearms to defend themselves. The question I put to you in the OP was, what ratio of lives saved to lives lost do you need to see in order for you to accept the right to keep and bear arms?

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What would be the number? [View all] needledriver Jul 2016 OP

How would you substantiate the number of lives saved just based on the number of DGUs? jmg257 Jul 2016 #1

I don't. needledriver Jul 2016 #3

Yes, agreed that any lives saved count - figuring it as the main purpose of self-defense. jmg257 Jul 2016 #6

Even though I believe that guns result in a "null effect" w/regard to violence......... pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #2

People talk about throwing out the 2nd Amendment. JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #4

If it saves one life, it's worth it. ileus Jul 2016 #5

Total propaganda Uponthegears Jul 2016 #7

You may call it bull puckey needledriver Jul 2016 #12

See #18 Uponthegears Jul 2016 #19

Somehow I find the claim that there are 50,000 defensive gun uses SheilaT Jul 2016 #8

Its actually a bit low - Check with the VPC... jmg257 Jul 2016 #9

Then why don't I read about these things every single day, SheilaT Jul 2016 #10

Don't like facts, huh? DonP Jul 2016 #11

Your viewpoint is based in a false assumption. beevul Jul 2016 #14

Not sure - they are often posted here, when it makes the news. jmg257 Jul 2016 #15

The reason you do not sarisataka Jul 2016 #16

Two things- needledriver Jul 2016 #17

Perhaps because they don't get reposted by the sites you visit? LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #26

because the media doesn't choose to report them, gejohnston Jul 2016 #28

Will you folks stop at nothing?????? Uponthegears Jul 2016 #18

Sorry - VPCs numbers are hardly mis-leading - quoted very specific DGU values as THEY provided them. jmg257 Jul 2016 #20

Please, please, you're killing me . . . Uponthegears Jul 2016 #21

"I have a problem with you trying to claim they represent the number of instances where a defensive jmg257 Jul 2016 #22

That would be real embarrassing Uponthegears Jul 2016 #23

He he - No worries...Cheers! I do hear you! jmg257 Jul 2016 #24

I am not a statistician needledriver Jul 2016 #25

"How many additional deaths per year of people unable to defend themselves would you be willing to jmg257 Jul 2016 #27

Sorry- that was not for you. needledriver Jul 2016 #29

All Guns Matter SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #13