va mtn man: I stumbled over a recent article that made this graph, using the Violence Policy Center's numbers (which have the smallest number of defensive gun uses than most other studies) You know run by the same Josh Sugarman that likes to make up new terms, specifically to cause confusion...
There appear to be approx 8 times more dgus (defensive gun uses) than murders (presumably gun murders), for one particular unidentified year. What was the year, mtn man?
Since you didn't bother to make any point, but from further progun discourse downthread, it seems you all are thinking that this somehow justifies guns as saving more lives than they cause(??correct me if wrong).
Disabuse yourselves from that absurd thought, for, for that to be true, all of those approx 68,000 dgus would have to have saved a life. That is an impossibility. You're lucky to get away with a couple hundred lives saved due to dgus, in that graph, maybe 10 times higher, or more.
Then you would also need tack on approx 800 firearm accidental deaths for a more valid contrast, as well as make a separate graph which would include gun suicides.
What was the total figure for violent crimes committed with firearms for that year mtn man? & firearms used in property crimes for that year mtn man? Imagine the blue 'murder' bar going about 3 or 4 times higher than the dgu bar.
Your second amendment mythology is so stupid sometimes, yet it is almost always astonishing to see how much support downthread the mythology seems to get.
Fix your link, sloppy mtn man, it is to justifiable homicides vs. non fatal dgus.
SCantiGOP & struggle for progress posters were on the right track, exposing mtn man & his back slapping psycho-fants for their misconceptions.
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