Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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60. Government will always be a balance...

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 05:55 AM

Jul 2016

...between anarchy and a way to help some of us to serve a few that can't help ourselves at least not at the moment. The idea of the pursuit of happiness by an individual does not always equate to the pursuit of happiness by a large group made of an institution such as a government needs to take hold. It is the ideals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness of the individual that must be held in highest regard.

There is no shortage of examples of government gone awry. JFK noted for us that balancing a civilian economy with an institutional military is one of the reasons the 2A will always remain important. Institutions, once they operate by the will of professionals, always at least in part will come to serve not only those few that need help but also themselves. Those professionals might be generals or congress critters or board members at Haliburton.

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Gun rights activists say they won’t comply with California’s new laws [View all] Just reading posts Jul 2016 OP

Entitled dumbasses. Squinch Jul 2016 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #27

There is always jail... deathrind Jul 2016 #2

Because we don't have enough people in jail in America bluestateguy Jul 2016 #28

Lots of supposition... deathrind Jul 2016 #35

Jail? - interesting. I wonder if you would be so respectful of a law restricting abortion - jonno99 Jul 2016 #47

Throw the book at them. mwrguy Jul 2016 #3

Careful.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #49

Cue fans of mass incarceration sarisataka Jul 2016 #4

They'e just salivating at the very thought of it, aren't they? Just reading posts Jul 2016 #7

I'm not sure about California sarisataka Jul 2016 #9

Unbelievable. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #17

This is why laws without a door to door option... scscholar Jul 2016 #5

Surely you won't mind sarisataka Jul 2016 #8

I'm a renter in Seattle so the city already has the right to search my place scscholar Jul 2016 #13

Seattle is a strange city sarisataka Jul 2016 #14

It was a safety check, so no they didn't look in drawers scscholar Jul 2016 #15

So they can inspect the building sarisataka Jul 2016 #20

So cops are qualified electricians? JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #52

Sounds like a mean neighborhood. JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #51

No warrant needed. Does a fire marshal need a warrant to search your home? scscholar Jul 2016 #53

I believe they would Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #55

The fire marshal doesn't search anyone's home unless it went up in air pollution. gejohnston Jul 2016 #57

Do not confuse search with sarisataka Jul 2016 #59

Oh, of course not. They can tap my phone while they're at it. After all, I have nothing to hide. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #18

that apply to politically incorrect cash crops based on gejohnston Jul 2016 #23

JAIL MFM008 Jul 2016 #6

It will give them something in common with gejohnston Jul 2016 #34

LOL, if it where me, I won't comply with it.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #10

Oh, they'll comply. Eventually. eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #11

The vast majority will not. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #36

We'll see, Lizzie, whether the law or you theory will prevail. eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #39

I'll be curious to see how it turns out down there. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #40

Sales of ammunition and normal capacity magazines will go through the roof in gun shops bordering Just reading posts Jul 2016 #42

Hot, for Oregon. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #43

The law didn't prevail against pot, now did it? hack89 Jul 2016 #62

Tell that to the people in prison. BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #63

And only a small percentage of people went to prison hack89 Jul 2016 #64

In New York ... Straw Man Jul 2016 #65

50 little puny protesters kimbutgar Jul 2016 #12

no you won't gejohnston Jul 2016 #22

50? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #25

If you are a fan of state infringement TeddyR Jul 2016 #16

I am sure they all for the federal Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #19

With maximum punishment sarisataka Jul 2016 #21

Even if it saves just one life, isn't it worth it? Just reading posts Jul 2016 #24

LOL they forget.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #26

BlablablablablablablablablastupidNRAtalkingpointblablablablablabla. Squinch Jul 2016 #30

actually, you can yell fire in a crowed theater gejohnston Jul 2016 #31

"Is there any gun regulation, no matter how useless, is too much?" By their own admission, the goal Just reading posts Jul 2016 #32

You are actually supporting my point. So please proceed. Squinch Jul 2016 #38

actually, I'm pointing out your strawman gejohnston Jul 2016 #41

Ah! The swarm is all here! Hi, kids! Squinch Jul 2016 #45

Eww, Mommy! Was that YOU? Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #46

I'd probably make a similar snide comment... beevul Jul 2016 #54

Nope, I think we are all adults Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #56

Jury nullification GreydeeThos Jul 2016 #29

Laws passed by a few to oppress many should be ignored. ileus Jul 2016 #33

Imagine that. beevul Jul 2016 #37

Hello Trump... Puha Ekapi Jul 2016 #48

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #50

be mindful beergood Jul 2016 #58

Government will always be a balance... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #60

I did but then of course I am a not a gun control advocate. ... spin Jul 2016 #61