Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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15. no body armor in that specific case

Reply to Human101948 (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 03:00 PM

Jun 2016

The point is, he teaches tactics to police. You look at what happened and learned from it. The references to body armor is a lesson learned. Like he said, the asshole in Orlando tried to get level three body armor and a gun from the first gun shop. The clerk told him to buzz off and called the FBI and cops. The point was, there is a chance the next terrorist will have that type of armor, which will resist a rifle round and cops have to train for that possibility.
More practice because most cops are poor shots, often less proficient than a rural teenager.

This is the reality, violence is rarely the answer. When it is, it is the only answer.

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Tipping point. [View all] mog75 Jun 2016 OP

Great! How about liability on the part of any gun owner whose weapon is used to harm others? Human101948 Jun 2016 #1

How about liability for the police and their employers who lose guns that are then used in crimes? Human101948 Jun 2016 #2

There is already liability for using a firearm to illegaly harm others. oneshooter Jun 2016 #3

yeah, yeah, what about the thousands of owners who don't lock up their guns Human101948 Jun 2016 #6

If they are not locked up, and then stolen and used illegaly oneshooter Jun 2016 #20

A car is not a gun... Human101948 Jun 2016 #22

So you are claimimg that a car can not be used to injure or kill? n/t oneshooter Jun 2016 #23

A car is not designed for the sole purpose of killing. A gun is. Katashi_itto Jul 2016 #26

If they are designed for transportation only oneshooter Jul 2016 #28

preconceptions & prejudice >> logic and/or facts n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #29

If someone harms another who is not an attacker, I would prefer jail. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #5

Worst thing about gun-free zones is the advertising. Sheesh. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #4

The gun free zone is a gun nut myth... Human101948 Jun 2016 #7

Oh yeah, and there was an armed guard at the Orlando shooting... Human101948 Jun 2016 #8

bullshit gejohnston Jun 2016 #9

You protestations are duly noted... Human101948 Jun 2016 #10

yes, but I provided a source not tied to any ideology gejohnston Jun 2016 #12

Your source is a fountain of gun propaganda.. Human101948 Jun 2016 #14

no body armor in that specific case gejohnston Jun 2016 #15

Hard fact, Human: More guns in circulation, murder rates are down. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #11

Hard fact, if you have a gun in the home you are more likely to die a violent death... Human101948 Jun 2016 #13

critical thinking hint, gejohnston Jun 2016 #16

You won't like this one as well! Human101948 Jun 2016 #17

there are three outlooks in criminology circles gejohnston Jun 2016 #18

Straw colossus. Few in the pro-2A group here buy into Lott's theory. Note CDC findings. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #32

Here's the thing about correlation ... Straw Man Jul 2016 #33

If you are in a home equipped with electricity, you are more likely to be electrocuted. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #27

back on topic mog75 Jun 2016 #19

No, not even close DonP Jun 2016 #21

Did you read the article? Kang Colby Jul 2016 #34

Sorry, after two weeks of getting the crap kicked out of me I missed that DonP Jul 2016 #36

You were probably doing a lot of the kicking. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #25

"harshes my vibe." Heh-Heh. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #31

No. But the issue will persist as it is culture war by proxy... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #30

"This is readly assisted by a Democratic Party which has junked any FDR/LBJ pretenses......" pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #38

If I can avoid a "hide," the Party pretty much gave up on a sound ideology for change... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #41

**Very** well said, E38. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #43

Yup, it's a tipping point alright... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #24

This is clearly the tipping point. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #35

Great idea. Strip citizens of the right to self-defense - pay any consequences. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #39

I hope you're right...self defense should be #1 priority. ileus Jul 2016 #40

I appreciate this post, as it strongly suggest a larger issue than gun control... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #42