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TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 02:35 PM May 2016

Second Amendment may invalidate ban on opening new gun stores in a California county [View all]

This is a piece from the Volokh Conspiracy at the WaPo on the 9th Circuit's decision in Texeira v. County of Alameda.

May a county in effect bar all new gun stores in its unincorporated areas? (The incorporated areas would be governed by city zoning rules.) This morning’s U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit decision in Teixeira v. County of Alameda [Calif.] suggests that the answer is probably “no.” Here’s a rough summary of the reasoning of the majority (written by Judge Diarmuid O’Scannlain and joined by Judge Carlos Bea):

1. The Second Amendment, in protecting a right to have guns for self-defense, also protects the “right to acquire weapons for self-defense.” Both history and logic supports this:

If “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” is to have any force, the people must have a right to acquire the very firearms they are entitled to keep and to bear. Indeed, where a right depends on subsidiary activity, it would make little sense if the right did not extend, at least partly, to such activity as well. The Supreme Court recognized this principle in very different contexts [citing cases involving the right to use contraceptives and the First Amendment].

Though D.C. v. Heller stated that “nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on … laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms,” there is no “categorical exception from Second Amendment scrutiny for the regulation of gun stores. If such were the case, the County could enact a total prohibition on the commercial sale of firearms. There is no question that ‘[s]uch a result would be untenable under Heller.’” “Conditions and qualifications” do not include broad prohibitions.


The rest can be found here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/16/second-amendment-may-invalidate-ban-on-opening-new-gun-stores-in-a-california-county/.

Certainly worth a read.
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I think the answer is likely facts-specific FBaggins May 2016 #1
It did gejohnston May 2016 #2
The abortion clinic example is probably a pretty good one. FBaggins May 2016 #24
What is even the purpose of banning gun stores? Giggity May 2016 #3
But so many don't do the background checks scscholar May 2016 #4
Any evidence for that claim? TeddyR May 2016 #5
"So many"? How many is that? beevul May 2016 #6
Not in CA. Big_Mike May 2016 #7
Gun stores require a Federal Firearms License (FFL) Giggity May 2016 #9
And if they really did the background checks... scscholar May 2016 #10
Have you ever heard of an ATF audit? beevul May 2016 #11
Do you think banning pharmacies would cure the problems we have with drugs? Giggity May 2016 #12
If pharmacies were flooding the streets with illegal drugs, then yes. scscholar May 2016 #14
I ask again TeddyR May 2016 #15
What if... sarisataka May 2016 #17
Sucks TeddyR May 2016 #19
Yup. pablo_marmol May 2016 #27
I think they ran away, lol Duckhunter935 May 2016 #26
"...but the NRA won't allow reasonable requirements for them." beevul May 2016 #18
1) Gun stores aren't flooding the market with illegal guns. Giggity May 2016 #22
".......but the NRA won't allow reasonable requirements for them." pablo_marmol May 2016 #29
Criminals don't go to gun stores gejohnston May 2016 #16
* sarisataka May 2016 #13
"Quick, call the ATF!" pablo_marmol May 2016 #28
Not if they're an FFL....don't buy into anti hyperbole. ileus May 2016 #21
That is a nonsense statement. Kang Colby May 2016 #23
What proof do you have Duckhunter935 May 2016 #25
I think you're expecting consistency... theatre goon May 2016 #8
How can anyone suggest that gun stores are a regular source of illegal guns??? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #20
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