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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
29. other than the fact that the facts from the trial,
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:06 PM
May 2016

eye witnesses and forensics is on my side.

Before I provide the facts and evidence to prove you wrong, let me give you some background. At first, I believed all the media and blogger bullshit about racist, wanabe cop, unhinged that called the cops all the time, was told to stay in the car, got off because he was buddies with the cops, and that the little kid in the Hollister shirt was Trayvon. I wanted to see the prosecution lay out the facts to convict him. I hated Zimmerman based on what I was told. By the time the prosecution rested, I fully realized that every blog, media speculation, and the likes of Hartman and MSNBC, fucking lied about everything. Everything we were told was a complete fucking lie. My next question is why, and it was obvious why the Seminole County DA didn't file charges, yet Corey, being appointed by Rick Scott, filed charges a week before election day where she was facing a tough re election and wasn't popular in the black community.

A forty hear old man with mixed martial arts training and professional level boxing skills against a 17 year old high school football player and the guy pulls a gun in "self defense"?
Not true. He actually did what amounts to boxing aerobics to lose weight. The trainer said Zimmerman had zero skill and would get his ass kicked in any ring. BTW, age is a disadvantage, especially if the younger person is athletic. Here is the trainer in his own words


Truth be told Martin was Standing His Ground because he was stalked by someone he didn't know and when the stalker didn't desist when confronted used the only weapons he had, his fists. But Zimmerman had a gun so Martin died and Zimmerman got off because Martin was dead and the one left living gets to tell his story.
Except the evidence doesn't show that either. The evidence shows, based on a phone conversation Martin was having and testimony of Jayne Surdyka that Martin was likely hiding behind Surdyka's bushes waiting for him to go back by. There is no evidence to support your claim. Even if true, under Florida law, Zimmerman's screams for help, while getting his head bashed in, and struggling to escape negates any self defense claim because it would make him the aggressor in a second fight. Either way, as the lead investigator said, there was no evidence that contradicted the self defense claim.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html
Go ahead, defend and support the Z man. Makes ya' look real good.
you are defending the false narrative created by a race baiting ambulance chaser and and anti Hispanic racists who happen to be black. That isn't that unusual in that part of Florida.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/11/22341/3139/crimenews/Benjamin-Crump-Who-Screamed-Doesn-t-Matter

Go ahead, defend and support the Z man. Makes ya' look real good.
The only thing I am defending is facts, evidence, and rule of law. Zimmerman has nothing to do with it. I oppose political prosecutions of anyone. My personal opinion of him is, like I said, indifferent.

You are nothing if not entertaining.
That is because I'm a real liberal who is guided by facts, evidence, and reason, and not letting the likes of Cenk Uyger or Sean Hannity do my thinking for me. Unfortunately, that seems to be an endangered species.

Unlike you, I actually watched the trial first hand. I did not just take the word of the likes of Thom Hartman, Bill O'Reilley, Cenk Uyger, or Glenn Beck. I saw the whole fucking thing, including the evidence hearings the jury didn't see. If your interested, there is a compete archive on You Tube.

Can you ever make a factual argument?
I don't know what you think about the rest of it, gejohnston May 2016 #1
I don't trust people to discern between a perceived threat and Rebkeh May 2016 #3
So babysitters should not TeddyR May 2016 #7
We need to get away from the mentality of just killing people lastlib May 2016 #23
So you would not be nervous if three oneshooter May 2016 #24
We need to get away TeddyR May 2016 #27
cool story gejohnston May 2016 #9
"My black lab gets defensive to any man with a loud voice or Brooklyn accent regardless of race." CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #10
but if he fired, he would have gone to prison. flamin lib May 2016 #25
maybe, or wouldn't have fired. gejohnston May 2016 #26
Really? That's the best ha' got? flamin lib May 2016 #28
other than the fact that the facts from the trial, gejohnston May 2016 #29
Yeah, right. has 40 pounds on the victim, MMX training, boxing skills good enough to get offered a flamin lib May 2016 #30
You didn't watch the video, gejohnston May 2016 #31
I did, I had never seen it before. beevul May 2016 #32
I'm noticing something of a pattern: friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #34
"professional level boxing skills"? Are you for real? beevul May 2016 #33
Does this include LE? oneshooter May 2016 #14
Good question Duckhunter935 May 2016 #18
Sorry for your bad experiences. but... beardown May 2016 #19
Sad to see them sneak this in scscholar May 2016 #2
talk about sneaking things in beergood May 2016 #4
The majority of people in NY support safety, unlike... scscholar May 2016 #5
if it had such broad support beergood May 2016 #6
The SAFE Act is bullshit. (the New York Assault Weapons Ban) CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #11
agreed beergood May 2016 #16
Do you have a link that supports this claim? TeddyR May 2016 #8
So why did they have pass it in the middle of the night Duckhunter935 May 2016 #13
looks like they ran away beergood May 2016 #15
Sad, but it happens a lot Duckhunter935 May 2016 #17
Yup, drop a "bumper sticker" comment and go away patting yourself on the back DonP May 2016 #20
You're not... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #21
Connecticut pulled the same crap Lurks Often May 2016 #22
Sounds like an expanded human rights bill. ileus May 2016 #12
Kick for "Professional level boxing skills". N/t beevul May 2016 #35
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