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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
9. cool story
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:54 PM
May 2016

but if he fired, he would have gone to prison. Perceived has nothing to do with it. SYG, which is the standard in every other country in the world, and duty to retreat which is in the minority of US states, does not change the threat needing to be immediate and reasonable under the reasonable standard. It only removes the requirement to try to retreat, which puts you in greater danger.
http://lawofselfdefense.com/the-five-principles-of-the-law-of-self-defense-in-a-nutshell/

Since we are talking castle doctrine, we are talking specifically inside the home. If someone forces their way into an occupied home, they are an immediate threat by any standard.

But since you "can't trust other people", are you are saying that people don't have the right to defend themselves? IOW expecting other people to die or suffer grave bodily injury for something you believe in. That is fundamentally immoral and illiberal. Either that, or you are misinformed about SYG, which is probably the case given the media's incompetence and dishonesty.

The dog could have reacted to anything. My black lab gets defensive to any man with a loud voice or Brooklyn accent regardless of race. Doesn't matter what I do or how I react. He would probably like you. Trump's loud voice and NYC accent, not so much. Some dogs are racist. I worked with a guy who's dog didn't like white people, any white people.

I don't know what you think about the rest of it, gejohnston May 2016 #1
I don't trust people to discern between a perceived threat and Rebkeh May 2016 #3
So babysitters should not TeddyR May 2016 #7
We need to get away from the mentality of just killing people lastlib May 2016 #23
So you would not be nervous if three oneshooter May 2016 #24
We need to get away TeddyR May 2016 #27
cool story gejohnston May 2016 #9
"My black lab gets defensive to any man with a loud voice or Brooklyn accent regardless of race." CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #10
but if he fired, he would have gone to prison. flamin lib May 2016 #25
maybe, or wouldn't have fired. gejohnston May 2016 #26
Really? That's the best ha' got? flamin lib May 2016 #28
other than the fact that the facts from the trial, gejohnston May 2016 #29
Yeah, right. has 40 pounds on the victim, MMX training, boxing skills good enough to get offered a flamin lib May 2016 #30
You didn't watch the video, gejohnston May 2016 #31
I did, I had never seen it before. beevul May 2016 #32
I'm noticing something of a pattern: friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #34
"professional level boxing skills"? Are you for real? beevul May 2016 #33
Does this include LE? oneshooter May 2016 #14
Good question Duckhunter935 May 2016 #18
Sorry for your bad experiences. but... beardown May 2016 #19
Sad to see them sneak this in scscholar May 2016 #2
talk about sneaking things in beergood May 2016 #4
The majority of people in NY support safety, unlike... scscholar May 2016 #5
if it had such broad support beergood May 2016 #6
The SAFE Act is bullshit. (the New York Assault Weapons Ban) CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #11
agreed beergood May 2016 #16
Do you have a link that supports this claim? TeddyR May 2016 #8
So why did they have pass it in the middle of the night Duckhunter935 May 2016 #13
looks like they ran away beergood May 2016 #15
Sad, but it happens a lot Duckhunter935 May 2016 #17
Yup, drop a "bumper sticker" comment and go away patting yourself on the back DonP May 2016 #20
You're not... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #21
Connecticut pulled the same crap Lurks Often May 2016 #22
Sounds like an expanded human rights bill. ileus May 2016 #12
Kick for "Professional level boxing skills". N/t beevul May 2016 #35
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