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beevul

(12,194 posts)
58. Yes. You do.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:16 PM
May 2016
You know what a rhetorical question is?


As a matter of fact I do, and I will let you know if I ask one. Not the other way around.

So now you were just asking random questions?


This question pertains to one of your claims. There is nothing random about it at all, as you well know:

How many of those states have a rate that is a function far more of low population than actual murders?

Well the answer to your question is no.


That would be an answer to a question I didn't ask. I asked this:

How many of those states have a rate that is a function far more of low population than actual murders?

The combined population of over half the United States and with a murder rate that averaged to more than the national average is not some trick or the light or slight of hand.


Oh, but how it is expressed most certainly is, as everyone on both side of the gun debate knows full well.

The percentage of gun owners killing all those Americans is also beside the point.


Like hell it is. The 80 to 100 million gun owning Americans who aren't shooting anyone get a say in this too.

If you have to suffer to save thousands of kids a year - and by suffer I mean have your toy taken away - then so be it.


I'm pretty sure it isn't even "thousands" of kids a year, but reaffirm my faith and come back citing a report that counts 19 year olds as 'kids', wont you?

You have just self identified yourself as an anti-gun extremist, well outside the American mainstream.

There's no justification got 300M guns being in the wild in a country of 300M.


Yes there is. Its a free country and people desire them. No other justification necessary.

And even less when you simply look at all the innocent people that die so you can own a gun.


Nobody dies "so I can own a gun" any more than anyone dies "so I can own a car". You are well off the rails now.

I simply don't care about your desire to have one.


I'd say your repeated posts and nonsensical arguments indicate that you care very much about it. To the point of hatred.

I don't think it should be a right and would indeed support the police knocking on your door and taking it away.


Like I said, You have just self identified yourself as an anti-gun extremist, well outside the American mainstream.

Your right to a toy doesn't supercede citizens rights to live in safety.


My right is NOT in conflict with citizens rights to live in safety, the unlawful actions of others is.

Kinda so what? EdwardBernays May 2016 #1
Generally speaking, gun murders are 50% lower with many more guns in civilian circulation. Kang Colby May 2016 #2
Here's the thing EdwardBernays May 2016 #5
Japan has almost no private gun ownership TeddyR May 2016 #6
yes and? EdwardBernays May 2016 #9
Since Japan contradicted your point? TeddyR May 2016 #14
False. Kang Colby May 2016 #12
we really don't gejohnston May 2016 #3
There you go, bringing facts into the discussion. theatre goon May 2016 #4
those weren't facts EdwardBernays May 2016 #8
Oh, I'm sorry... theatre goon May 2016 #10
Use Google EdwardBernays May 2016 #11
Actually, they were speculation. Straw Man May 2016 #41
When they don't have an answer to what was actually stated... theatre goon May 2016 #43
not true EdwardBernays May 2016 #7
Please. Kang Colby May 2016 #13
Are you saying Jews with guns would have stopped the 'final solution'? angstlessk May 2016 #16
No, but gun ownership would have made it more difficult...in my opinion. Lives would have been saved Kang Colby May 2016 #17
A few guns against the government is suicide...what lives would have been saved? angstlessk May 2016 #18
Tell that to the Viet Cong, Afghans, or dozens of other groups throughout history. Kang Colby May 2016 #22
Are you proposing insurrection of the US? angstlessk May 2016 #23
No. Kang Colby May 2016 #24
No I have read Howard Zinn's History of the United States angstlessk May 2016 #25
Sadly, I'm unfamiliar with Howard Zinn. I might have to check out his books sometime. Kang Colby May 2016 #26
I have audio.com and have gifted Howard Zinns book to many angstlessk May 2016 #28
That sounds great. Thank you for the offer. n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #35
1200 saved by the Bielski group. Straw Man May 2016 #40
Defiance CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #47
The wisdom of Tuvia discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #48
Seems the US has a murder problem TeddyR May 2016 #15
Murder by gun problem angstlessk May 2016 #20
unknown, however gejohnston May 2016 #32
There are stories almost daily TeddyR May 2016 #46
Three times as many people are murdered each year with knives... benEzra May 2016 #59
How many of those states have a rate that... beevul May 2016 #21
Ahhh EdwardBernays May 2016 #42
Yes, assume actions on the part of people who don't even exist, and we'll get somewhere. beevul May 2016 #53
Well EdwardBernays May 2016 #54
I wasn't "saying" anything. I was ASKING... beevul May 2016 #55
I assume EdwardBernays May 2016 #56
So many misconceptions ... Straw Man May 2016 #57
Yes. You do. beevul May 2016 #58
I will give you credit for rubbing the surface, gejohnston May 2016 #31
"a bizarre obsession with guns" says more about you than it does anyone else. N/T beevul May 2016 #19
"Kinda so what?" How mediocre and unimaginative. We have big improvement, but... Eleanors38 May 2016 #50
Not when it's your child Iliyah May 2016 #27
The U.S. is much safer today than any point within the last fifty years. Kang Colby May 2016 #30
I'm still mad Iliyah May 2016 #33
Why? Kang Colby May 2016 #34
Respectfully, the causes of ALL crime and homicides should be studied more... Eleanors38 May 2016 #49
"would put our murder rate on par with Denmark or Australia" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #29
Some food for thought. I think it is interesting that when Americans are led to believe violence doc03 May 2016 #36
I don't think it is the same population gejohnston May 2016 #37
Well I guess I have to spell it out the firearms industry's biggest doc03 May 2016 #38
no they are not. gejohnston May 2016 #39
You can't tell me the NRA doesn't promote the violence is out of control doc03 May 2016 #44
I haven't seen any such claims gejohnston May 2016 #45
Except it isn't! scscholar May 2016 #51
Please tell me, especially with your handle, that this is sarcasm whatthehey May 2016 #52
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