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In reply to the discussion: We Are More Afraid Than Ever of Gun Violence, But the Truth Is the Murder Rate Is at a 50-Year Low [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)45. I haven't seen any such claims
the only thing I got was the standard fund raising letters that follow the same formula, if not template, of everyone else. Give us money to fight off the evil extremists or your rights are lost forever. I will give you that LaPierre is a partisan and a bit of a dolt that needs to be replaced. His mental health registry idea and channeling Tipper Gore on the video games were repugnant and absurd respectively.
I won't be dragged into any bs strawman argument about guns.
I contend that you are the one making it.
It always ends in bs about needing an AR15 or AK47 with a 30 round magazine to hunt coyote or something.
Actually, the argument is that they can be used for that, not that they need it. The argument is that they are the least misused of all guns, and it is the "modern musket". There is also the slippery slope argument.
When I am out in a public place I am more concerned about some wacko walking in opening fire with an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine than anyone wanting to steal my wallet. At home I don't need an AR-15 to hold off a small army.
Statistically, you should be more concerned about drunk road raging rednecks and being in the store at the wrong place in time. While rampage shooters make the news, your chances of running into one are less than winning the lottery twice.
Provide actual examples, then I can't say that. Until then, I'm like the non fundie still waiting for the second coming.
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We Are More Afraid Than Ever of Gun Violence, But the Truth Is the Murder Rate Is at a 50-Year Low [View all]
Kang Colby
May 2016
OP
Generally speaking, gun murders are 50% lower with many more guns in civilian circulation.
Kang Colby
May 2016
#2
No, but gun ownership would have made it more difficult...in my opinion. Lives would have been saved
Kang Colby
May 2016
#17
A few guns against the government is suicide...what lives would have been saved?
angstlessk
May 2016
#18
Tell that to the Viet Cong, Afghans, or dozens of other groups throughout history.
Kang Colby
May 2016
#22
Sadly, I'm unfamiliar with Howard Zinn. I might have to check out his books sometime.
Kang Colby
May 2016
#26
Yes, assume actions on the part of people who don't even exist, and we'll get somewhere.
beevul
May 2016
#53
"a bizarre obsession with guns" says more about you than it does anyone else. N/T
beevul
May 2016
#19
"Kinda so what?" How mediocre and unimaginative. We have big improvement, but...
Eleanors38
May 2016
#50
Respectfully, the causes of ALL crime and homicides should be studied more...
Eleanors38
May 2016
#49