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In reply to the discussion: 80-year-old woman shoots and kills young intruder after he stabs her husband [View all]sarisataka
(21,005 posts)49. Fast read
Fairy tales usually are.
If you did indeed read the entire report, you read the section that gives the total numbers of DGUs. You can read the footnote that states the VPC took this data fron the National Crime Victimization Survey.
The National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) series, previously called the National Crime Survey (NCS), has been collecting data on personal and household victimization since 1973. An ongoing survey of a nationally representative sample of residential addresses, the NCVS is the primary source of information on the characteristics of criminal victimization and on the number and types of crimes not reported to law enforcement authorities. It provides the largest national forum for victims to describe the impact of crime and characteristics of violent offenders. Twice each year, data are obtained from a nationally representative sample of roughly 49,000 households comprising about 100,000 persons on the frequency, characteristics, and consequences of criminal victimization in the United States. The survey is administered by the U.S. Census Bureau (under the U.S. Department of Commerce) on behalf of the Bureau of Justice Statistics (under the U.S. Department of Justice).
Still calling this source a biased "study"?
Just to blow you mind, the CDC (the same CDC everyone on the control side wants to study gun violence) report Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence believes the NCVS is undercounting DGUs. The CDC instead stated
Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals
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Cherry picking is selecting only the data you like. (such as reading the first and last pages, ignoring inconvenient data in between) (also did you notice that the reason Kleck's findings are implausible is because- well just because. They never actually refute the finding or state where he made errors. Personally I do think his number is too high but I do not have the statistical skill to analyze it; it is simply my personal belief)
IMO the entire VPC report is 100% Grade AA bullshit. Sugarmann has advocated using deceit to create support for gun control. Why should I believe anything from a person who admits he will lie?
I am all in favor however, of letting the CDC study this subject completely unfettered by partisan agendas.
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80-year-old woman shoots and kills young intruder after he stabs her husband [View all]
TeddyR
Apr 2016
OP
"And I'll just bet you and I are nowhere near alone in that." You certainly aren't!
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#30
All 80 yo women are expected to have the stamina and strength to defeat a knife armed 25 yo...
Marengo
Apr 2016
#27
This news situation rarely happens. So, "what if possession saves ONE precious life"?
vkkv
Apr 2016
#11
Wow, that come back has GOT to be the most childish thing anyone could come up with.
vkkv
Apr 2016
#34
Semi-auto refers to the loading of the next round AUTOMATICALLY by blow-back method.
vkkv
Apr 2016
#38
I wonder if that one would be okay with legislating women's reproductive rights...
Marengo
May 2016
#56