Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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26. the NRA never claimed there were up to two million a year

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 04:44 PM

Apr 2016

the number comes from here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

Cook and Lugwig are economists that do gun studies funded by either the Joyce Foundation, which astro turfs the Brady Campaign and VPC, and Kleck is a criminologist.
http://criminology.fsu.edu/faculty-and-staff/college-faculty/gary-kleck/

Most of these studies are a couple of decades old when crime, including murder, was at least twice per capita than what it is today. This was also when only Vermont, Washington, and Vermont had liberal concealed carry laws. It would be interesting what the estimates would be today with more people carrying, or at least legally carrying, and half the crime rate.

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80-year-old woman shoots and kills young intruder after he stabs her husband [View all] TeddyR Apr 2016 OP

Good for her! Indydem Apr 2016 #1

Ok Wayne LaPierre, one in 1,000 success story, so make the most of it Perseus Apr 2016 #2

I think you'll find that most people that post in this group TeddyR Apr 2016 #4

Ditto this: 1monster Apr 2016 #5

"very few people are against owning guns" sarisataka Apr 2016 #8

Then why are their top legislative priorities... benEzra Apr 2016 #13

You took the words right out of my mouth, Ben. beevul Apr 2016 #19

"And I'll just bet you and I are nowhere near alone in that." You certainly aren't! friendly_iconoclast Apr 2016 #30

Hear, hear!!! n/t Mugu Apr 2016 #32

So is it your contention ... Straw Man Apr 2016 #14

Nice and typical Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #51

I'm fine with self-defense. You're lying. shenmue Apr 2016 #6

You speak for yourself sarisataka Apr 2016 #9

Fucking bullshit. MynameisBlarney Apr 2016 #7

No it's true sarisataka Apr 2016 #15

This si why we must always stay progressive on the 2A. ileus Apr 2016 #3

Hey, that's one, for April! louis-t Apr 2016 #10

What would you say sarisataka Apr 2016 #16

Ha! How many of them were guys going into a bar louis-t Apr 2016 #22

Well since you have an open mind, sarisataka Apr 2016 #25

So, you must believe that the "liberal media" louis-t Apr 2016 #42

You take anecdote sarisataka Apr 2016 #48

By the way, I just read the report you included. louis-t Apr 2016 #43

Fast read sarisataka Apr 2016 #49

Uh, You did cherry pick. The first 2 pages had louis-t May 2016 #58

You had to look for the data sarisataka May 2016 #59

Mmm, I see. Deliberately de-emphasized. louis-t May 2016 #60

"Abstract" sarisataka May 2016 #61

the NRA never claimed there were up to two million a year gejohnston Apr 2016 #26

All 80 yo women are expected to have the stamina and strength to defeat a knife armed 25 yo... Marengo Apr 2016 #27

The son was there. Did you even bother to read? louis-t Apr 2016 #44

What did the son do? What action did he take? Marengo May 2016 #55

She should be forced to rely on the patriarchy? beevul May 2016 #57

"a baseball bat would have worked just as well." beergood Apr 2016 #36

Now you're just trying way too hard. louis-t Apr 2016 #45

thank you beergood May 2016 #62

This news situation rarely happens. So, "what if possession saves ONE precious life"? vkkv Apr 2016 #11

You may already know this TeddyR Apr 2016 #17

We've outlawed rocket launchers, yes? vkkv Apr 2016 #18

No, we actually haven't. beevul Apr 2016 #20

Good luck buying one... eom vkkv Apr 2016 #23

Don't need it. I have no desire to own one. beevul Apr 2016 #24

Quick google search located operational RPG7ds for sale in the USA... Marengo Apr 2016 #28

In the market? gejohnston Apr 2016 #29

The fact that gun ranges don't permit TeddyR Apr 2016 #31

Wow, that come back has GOT to be the most childish thing anyone could come up with. vkkv Apr 2016 #34

so much wrong with what you wrote beergood Apr 2016 #35

Yes our streets would be much safer if drug dealers gejohnston Apr 2016 #40

You clearly don't understand range rules. Straw Man Apr 2016 #54

I happen to value my one precious life. ileus Apr 2016 #33

there's beergood Apr 2016 #37

Semi-auto refers to the loading of the next round AUTOMATICALLY by blow-back method. vkkv Apr 2016 #38

No. They can't. beevul Apr 2016 #39

no they aren't. gejohnston Apr 2016 #41

Gee, I'm so glad we have the gun techs here louis-t Apr 2016 #46

You're welcome. Straw Man Apr 2016 #47

I wonder if that one would be okay with legislating women's reproductive rights... Marengo May 2016 #56

I'm guessing you'd prefer less biased sources of information... beevul Apr 2016 #50

Amen to over technical elitists beardown Apr 2016 #53

Take all weapons away from men safeinOhio Apr 2016 #12

What about the men who live with older women? beevul Apr 2016 #21

Thank God for McDonald v. Chicago bluestateguy Apr 2016 #52