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tortoise1956

(671 posts)
41. Oh, you wound me...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:21 PM
Apr 2016

The numbers as stated in the post, using inflated figures that actually skew the results toward a higher figure, come out to around 0.1% of gun owners killing someone in their lifetime. The last time I looked, the CDC said that about twice as many Americans are wounded every year by guns as are killed. (estimate, with very high uncertainty, but I'll use it for now)

So, once again:

1.5 million fatalities = 3 million non-fatalities

allowing for 1/2 the gun deaths to be murder, we arrive at 3.75 million events divided by 80 million gun owners = 4.7%. Since I gave you a break last time, I'll do it again and call it 5%. Once again applying the 10% factor to account for illegal shootings, we come up with 0.5%.

So, using inflated figures, we can say that Beevul's 0.1% figure may not be correct. However, it is STILL much closer than the 3% hogwash you threw out there.

So basically your face is the only one that needs saving - AGAIN - Jimmy the Zero.



Oh look, a picture of the Second Amendment. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #1
And yet 99.9x percent of guns aren't used in murders. N/T beevul Feb 2016 #2
But you know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #7
Invalid Premises Galore jimmy the one Mar 2016 #18
If you spouted anything else, we might go into shock. beevul Mar 2016 #22
to wit jimmy the one Mar 2016 #24
LOL. THATS your gambit? beevul Mar 2016 #25
resident eevul jimmy the one Mar 2016 #32
Jimmy the wesker? beevul Mar 2016 #34
armed robbery is not misusing a gun? jimmy the one Mar 2016 #35
Are you claiming I said that? beevul Mar 2016 #36
quintuple counting jimmy the one Mar 2016 #37
Says you. beevul Mar 2016 #38
you flunked the quiz jimmy the one Mar 2016 #39
Again, says you. beevul Mar 2016 #40
altered figures do not refute anything jimmy the one Apr 2016 #43
Hah. beevul Apr 2016 #47
As usual, you twist facts to suit your fanciful imagination tortoise1956 Mar 2016 #30
sleeping dogs should stay asleep jimmy the one Mar 2016 #33
Oh, you wound me... tortoise1956 Apr 2016 #41
simple explanation jimmy the one Apr 2016 #42
don't go apoplectic due another error jimmy the one Apr 2016 #44
It's empty underpants Feb 2016 #3
Not necessarily tortoise1956 Mar 2016 #31
and it's obviously aroused Fairgo Feb 2016 #4
Apologies accepted, but you should seek treatment for that case of Markley's Syndrome: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #5
Umm ... no. Straw Man Feb 2016 #8
funny looking AR-15 Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #6
A SIG? Really? Straw Man Feb 2016 #9
Actually, the Wright/Rossi prison survey demonstrated that pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #10
Yeah, but ... Straw Man Feb 2016 #11
Especially a single action sig...you can buy 2 plastic striker junkers for that one sig. ileus Feb 2016 #13
Like a Taurus for example. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #28
That was my thought. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #26
Mine are life saving devices...and some of them are beautiful. ileus Feb 2016 #12
Like a fire extinguisher? nt Logical Feb 2016 #16
Fire extinguishers do not make good weapons GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #20
No, the gun wackos love to say a gun is just a tool, like a fire extinguisher, which is BS. nt Logical Mar 2016 #21
Tool- "a device or implement...used to carry out a particular function" friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #29
Which is why we need to ban rifles with pistol grips krispos42 Feb 2016 #14
also be most effective anti murder weapon... ileus Feb 2016 #15
If handguns were used in less than 200 murders a year nationwide, benEzra Feb 2016 #17
Not really a Sig Sauer fan myself doggie breath Mar 2016 #19
I don't know my Sig 220 and 229 have never harmed anyone/thing either. ??? ileus Mar 2016 #23
Well technically no, but OK as an exemplar, in one way at least I guess whatthehey Mar 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #45
Sure - as a variant of a very common firearm most used in homicides whatthehey Apr 2016 #46
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