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In reply to the discussion: A well regulated militia? [View all]discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,578 posts)27. Members of a Christian militia accused of plotting an antigovernment uprising were acquitted...
...on sedition and conspiracy charges on Tuesday by a federal judge who said prosecutors had failed to prove that the group had concrete plans to attack anyone.
Exactly how old is that cartoon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutaree#Trial
In February 2011, Judge Victoria A. Roberts set a new trial date of Sept. 13, 2011 after defense attorneys asked for more time to review the hundreds of pages of evidence prosecutors have provided them. Attorneys also cited the complexity of the case in asking for a delay. The case originally was to go to trial on February 28, 2011. Roberts first delayed the trial in December 2010 until April after attorneys made a similar request. Defense attorneys argued that statements made by Hutaree were constitutionally protected free speech and not plans for an attack.
In January 2012, a federal judge issued an order granting the defense attorneys' motion to exclude prosecution testimony by an expert drawing parallels between the defendants' beliefs and various conspiracy theories about Ruby Ridge, the Waco siege, the Oklahoma City bombing, and 9/11, concluding: "It is largely irrelevant to the issues in dispute and what little probative value it might add is substantially outweighed by the risks of undue prejudice, confusion and misleading the jury." On March 27, 2012, a federal judge acquitted seven Hutaree defendants of the most serious charges related to conspiracy and sedition; they were free to go. David Stone Sr. and Joshua Stone continued to be held on weapons-related charges. On August 8, 2012, David Stone Sr., Joshua Stone and Joshua Clough were sentenced to time served on weapons-related charges, to which they pleaded guilty, and placed under supervision for two years.
In February 2011, Judge Victoria A. Roberts set a new trial date of Sept. 13, 2011 after defense attorneys asked for more time to review the hundreds of pages of evidence prosecutors have provided them. Attorneys also cited the complexity of the case in asking for a delay. The case originally was to go to trial on February 28, 2011. Roberts first delayed the trial in December 2010 until April after attorneys made a similar request. Defense attorneys argued that statements made by Hutaree were constitutionally protected free speech and not plans for an attack.
In January 2012, a federal judge issued an order granting the defense attorneys' motion to exclude prosecution testimony by an expert drawing parallels between the defendants' beliefs and various conspiracy theories about Ruby Ridge, the Waco siege, the Oklahoma City bombing, and 9/11, concluding: "It is largely irrelevant to the issues in dispute and what little probative value it might add is substantially outweighed by the risks of undue prejudice, confusion and misleading the jury." On March 27, 2012, a federal judge acquitted seven Hutaree defendants of the most serious charges related to conspiracy and sedition; they were free to go. David Stone Sr. and Joshua Stone continued to be held on weapons-related charges. On August 8, 2012, David Stone Sr., Joshua Stone and Joshua Clough were sentenced to time served on weapons-related charges, to which they pleaded guilty, and placed under supervision for two years.
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Too many people misinterpret the 2nd Amendment *because* of the "well regulated militia" term...
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#17
No, your point was to try to lump all gun owners into a "militia", which is a false analogy. n/t
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#20
Here's a bit, when Congress was actually discussing the article that became the 2nd amendment...
jmg257
Mar 2016
#41
The Militia was formed from the body of the people, so yes - the people had their rights
jmg257
Mar 2016
#39
You seem to confuse the militia with the individuals who may nor may not be in it.
ManiacJoe
Mar 2016
#19
Cartoons, the last resort of a poster who has nothing original of their own to say.
Lurks Often
Mar 2016
#26
Amazing how this "art/journalism" form has remained so static in this day and age. nt
Eleanors38
Apr 2016
#44
Members of a Christian militia accused of plotting an antigovernment uprising were acquitted...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Mar 2016
#27