Gun Control & RKBA

beevul

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63. So what?

Reply to Kittycat (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:58 PM

Feb 2016

They already have him a warning.

So what?

The gun doesn't need to be on school property.

We don't have a department of needs. When we do, you might take it up with them. Until then...

He may have a right to carry, but they have a right to ban him from carrying it on there, when safety outweighs self interest.

Wrong.

As agents of the state, they don't have any rights in this context, they have powers.

Powers are those things governments have, which are opposite to and at odds with rights.

As agents of the state, their power should be restricted by amendment 2, just like every other government agency.

And, just like amendment 1, the point was never to protect conduct which is popular.

Popular conduct doesn't need protection, right?

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Elementary school locked down after open-carry dad keeps on showing up with gun [View all] eridani Dec 2015 OP

Some people exercise their rights in such a way RandySF Dec 2015 #1

Doesn't that asshole realize he's scaring the hell out of the kids? Warpy Dec 2015 #2

I guess one could make the argument whitefordmd Dec 2015 #3

The gun owner's motives are unknown LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2015 #4

There to pick up his kid? beevul Feb 2016 #19

They already have him a warning. Kittycat Feb 2016 #32

So what? beevul Feb 2016 #63

The school has no reason to just accept that the guy with a gun won't start shooting. djean111 Dec 2015 #5

Is that your honest opinion of 100+ million gun owners? Seriously? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #70

You mean 100+ million gun owners would find it necessary to open carry in a school? djean111 Feb 2016 #71

If someone we're to start shooting a "Gun Free Zone" sign won't hold them back. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #73

A guy carrying a gun out in the open is sufficient reason. Warpy Dec 2015 #6

I completely trust an open carrier shadowrider Feb 2016 #24

You aren't a six year old. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #31

I'll wager a bunch of adults running around in panicked hysterics is more upsetting than a gun. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #41

You might be right tazkcmo Feb 2016 #43

Where I live OC is fairly common. There isn't a child within 50 miles of my home that Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #45

OK. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #49

People shouldn't be allowed to abrogate the law based on practiced phobias. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #62

I'm done. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #64

Well done, even. beevul Feb 2016 #65

beevul gets it. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #68

In fairness... beevul Feb 2016 #75

Yup. Shadowflash Feb 2016 #53

LOL. GGJohn Feb 2016 #56

"... because you are afraid for your life..." beevul Feb 2016 #66

In my experience, those would be the same folks who argue that... stone space Feb 2016 #8

I ask again, GGJohn Feb 2016 #9

You should ask that question of the two people who one of them murdered. stone space Feb 2016 #10

Maybe you should answer my question. GGJohn Feb 2016 #11

You don't care that they murdered two people. stone space Feb 2016 #12

... GGJohn Feb 2016 #13

"Besides Veronica Dunnachie, who in that picture murdered 2 people?" stone space Feb 2016 #14

Why would you feel unsafe around the other 3? GGJohn Feb 2016 #15

Don't worry about the double murderer's armed backup. stone space Feb 2016 #28

Armed backup? GGJohn Feb 2016 #34

Yes, armed backup. Here's a photo of the double murderer and her armed backup in a restaurant. stone space Feb 2016 #37

Was she a double murder suspect then? GGJohn Feb 2016 #39

Do you feel safer with the cops? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #42

For what it's worth in the "discussion" ... DonP Feb 2016 #17

This ought to give our interloper a fit. GGJohn Feb 2016 #18

In a previous thread we also learned that Iowa allows campus carry too DonP Feb 2016 #21

did it happen in that restaurant Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #22

"It's a magazine, not a clip, dammit!" stone space Feb 2016 #26

for some reason I knew you Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #35

Now you've went and done it. GGJohn Feb 2016 #40

well sometimes the truth needs to be presented Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #46

I expect a Nixonesque type of thread soon. GGJohn Feb 2016 #48

you did not see the "I am not a thief" Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #50

Yeah, I saw it, GGJohn Feb 2016 #52

The young woman is black in this photo went on to shoot her husband and adult flamin lib Feb 2016 #54

So guilt by association? GGJohn Feb 2016 #57

Maybe controllers are like Leland Yee: make guns illegal to boost their share of the black market Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #74

Maybe they're all murderers in waiting, with serious self control issues.. beevul Feb 2016 #76

Oh wow, I see you enjoy spelunking. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #72

I guess they could. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #27

IMO, if someone wants to carry a weapon at a school, then carry concealed. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #7

Agreed. eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #16

Hear, Hear! n/t Mugu Feb 2016 #20

agreed Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #23

Why should random people be carrying guns in a school at all? stone space Feb 2016 #25

Why shouldn't they if all they're doing is picking up their children and GGJohn Feb 2016 #36

You are aware that open carry is legal in Iowa? eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #38

Some people are more interested in making a point than in protecting themselves or others. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #33

In my opinion anyone too frightened to leave home without a gun is mentally flamin lib Feb 2016 #55

Well, you know the old saying, GGJohn Feb 2016 #58

The 12 million plus US CCW permit holders will give your "opinion" serious consideration DonP Feb 2016 #59

Ah hell, he has to come to this group because the group he hosts GGJohn Feb 2016 #60

Because crime never happens outside the home. Ever. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #69

.... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #29

This guy thinks he's exercising his rights in support of a larger cause ShrimpPoboy Feb 2016 #30

The law is on his side. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #44

If more people act this obnoxiously, it won't be for long. ShrimpPoboy Feb 2016 #47

There's nothing obnoxious about picking up your children from school. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #61

The only people acting obnoxious, are the delicate flowers... beevul Feb 2016 #67

D'oh! underpants Feb 2016 #51