Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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39. the infrastructure has to paid for

Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:50 PM

Jan 2016

a background check is eight bucks.

What value is registration if there is no evidence of any crime being solved, or any crime drop? It isn't. That is the difference between a liberal and conservative/SDS type progressive. A liberal believes every restriction should be as narrow as possible and only if there is a tangle benefit to society to justify it. The latter is more authoritarian. For me, it is a matter of being a consistent liberal.

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What if instead of a gun-owner-registry, there were a national gun-registry? [View all] DetlefK Jan 2016 OP

NO. GGJohn Jan 2016 #1

Why? DetlefK Jan 2016 #3

I stated my reasons, GGJohn Jan 2016 #5

I would say they have both. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #16

And I would disagree, as does the ACLU. GGJohn Jan 2016 #18

Where do you get your info? safeinOhio Jan 2016 #19

The ACLU opposes registration. GGJohn Jan 2016 #20

Imagine that... beevul Jan 2016 #26

I notice that quieted him down. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #33

I've got other stuff to do. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #58

From the ACLU safeinOhio Jan 2016 #59

I don't know about deseretnews safeinOhio Jan 2016 #38

The ACLU has long opposed registration due to privacy rights. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #42

Not quite safeinOhio Jan 2016 #44

by the way safeinOhio Jan 2016 #45

You assume far too much. GGJohn Jan 2016 #88

How about ABC News? Straw Man Jan 2016 #61

The ACLU still safeinOhio Jan 2016 #84

You keep clinging to that. DonP Jan 2016 #86

Which has squat to do with them opposing registration due to privacy concerns. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #87

Right. Straw Man Jan 2016 #91

Yep and if safeinOhio Jan 2016 #92

respecting their opinion on one thing gejohnston Jan 2016 #93

That is a stretch as safeinOhio Jan 2016 #94

no, gejohnston Jan 2016 #95

I think I have safeinOhio Jan 2016 #96

I don't think so gejohnston Jan 2016 #97

Comparing UK and Australia to safeinOhio Jan 2016 #98

Comparisons. Straw Man Jan 2016 #99

I'd call it safeinOhio Jan 2016 #101

Is it still a false equivalence when the gejohnston Jan 2016 #104

Oh, give 'em a little time. Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #107

Odd....sounds like a gun owner registry. ileus Jan 2016 #2

Yeah, my wording there was bad. DetlefK Jan 2016 #4

really ? DustyJoe Jan 2016 #6

Well, what happened to your guns? DetlefK Jan 2016 #102

Don't We Do Something Like That For Cars?..... global1 Jan 2016 #7

that is true only if you drive it on public roads gejohnston Jan 2016 #8

How Do You Get Your Car From The Dealer To Your Private Property?..... global1 Jan 2016 #9

tow truck gejohnston Jan 2016 #11

Could you point out where in the Constitution safeinOhio Jan 2016 #17

I never said it wasn't constitutional gejohnston Jan 2016 #22

OK I can buy that. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #35

the infrastructure has to paid for gejohnston Jan 2016 #39

that might be one way to look at it safeinOhio Jan 2016 #43

That is a uniquely US definition gejohnston Jan 2016 #47

works with machine guns safeinOhio Jan 2016 #56

No it doesn't gejohnston Jan 2016 #60

Liberalism is associated with a belief in high Individual liberty. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #89

I think Canada Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #80

Car hauler, same way I get my Jeep to the trail. ileus Jan 2016 #13

In Florida, they're called "grove trucks," Texas, "ranch rockets.".... Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #108

Cars aren't a right....also you're not right. ileus Jan 2016 #12

Just Saying... some municipalities restrict the number nykym Jan 2016 #52

That is generally the case for urban and suburban areas... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #53

I am neither nykym Jan 2016 #54

My town has similar rules discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #67

We have the same rule here in Rural Va. ileus Jan 2016 #55

In the spirit of compromise sarisataka Jan 2016 #10

THIS is a worthy idea, one backed here for years. ^^^ Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #109

No. beevul Jan 2016 #14

You saying I can keep my house without safeinOhio Jan 2016 #21

If you want to invite the TSA into your home, feel free. beevul Jan 2016 #24

TSA will not ask to... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #27

Is your bag private property? safeinOhio Jan 2016 #31

As a matter of fact it is... beevul Jan 2016 #37

Not at all safeinOhio Jan 2016 #40

And you enjoy your TSA. beevul Jan 2016 #48

Paying taxes does not allow a search of your home. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #81

My response was to a comment about property rights and search rights. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #82

That's because all land is purchased in a legal deed concept called "Fee Simple". NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #83

I agree on the 4th however safeinOhio Jan 2016 #85

Did you not read the defintiion of Fee Simple? NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #90

Are you aware that felons cannot be legally required to register their guns? hack89 Jan 2016 #15

Seems a universal background check on purchase safeinOhio Jan 2016 #23

That's already been done gejohnston Jan 2016 #25

Not even in the US those examples safeinOhio Jan 2016 #28

they were rare before NFA gejohnston Jan 2016 #41

"Full autos are more common in" Hollywood! Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #110

Do you really think those engaged in illegal gun trafficking care? nt hack89 Jan 2016 #29

Apparently they do when safeinOhio Jan 2016 #34

There are over 300 million unregistered guns in America hack89 Jan 2016 #36

Sure are a lot of folks driving faster than the safeinOhio Jan 2016 #57

But acts of gun violence are exceedingly rare compared to the number guns and gun owners hack89 Jan 2016 #62

You don't think gangs safeinOhio Jan 2016 #64

Central America and Mexico are awash with automatic weapons hack89 Jan 2016 #65

Those same cartels and drug gangs safeinOhio Jan 2016 #66

So the Feds ignore heroin, cocaine and meth but will come down hard because of automatic weapons? hack89 Jan 2016 #68

Why can't the Feds come down hard on the cartels and drug gangs using semi-automatic weapons? hack89 Jan 2016 #69

Most of the crime here are state crimes safeinOhio Jan 2016 #70

Every major city has SWAT teams with automatic weapons hack89 Jan 2016 #71

Every city swat team safeinOhio Jan 2016 #73

Hold on a second hack89 Jan 2016 #74

City cops are not all that trained. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #75

Questions? HockeyMom Jan 2016 #30

There are a bunch of safeinOhio Jan 2016 #32

Under the Gun Control Act, gejohnston Jan 2016 #46

Or mentally impaired HockeyMom Jan 2016 #50

how mentally impaired? gejohnston Jan 2016 #51

That depends on the state you live in HockeyMom Jan 2016 #63

The Gun Control Act defines it as gejohnston Jan 2016 #72

Yes, Adjudicated is the key HockeyMom Jan 2016 #78

I don't know anything about Lanza gejohnston Jan 2016 #79

A question about NYS law. Straw Man Jan 2016 #100

You are mistaken, autism is NOT a mental illness Lurks Often Jan 2016 #103

I was not talking about Autism HockeyMom Jan 2016 #105

My post was in response to your comments regarding Adam Lanza & Nancy Lanza ONLY Lurks Often Jan 2016 #106

Here is a list from the FBI discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #76

If the law changes after you register the firearm then they know where to go to get them bolus Jan 2016 #49

I have no problem with them registering guns or gun owners. They should doc03 Jan 2016 #77