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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
5. that study was done before the current federal background checks
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jan 2016

and I doubt they would fill out the federal form that has been around since the GCA was first passed.
I'm not saying they should be done away with. I agree with them in principle, I just know the limit. At best, they are speed bump for the stupid. In Europe, it is easier to get an illegal gun than a legal gun. If you can buy a bag of pot, meth, heroin, you can buy a gun. Doesn't matter where in the world you happen to be. Or, you can just make your own machine guns like biker gangs in Australia do. The bright side to that is Sydney can have a hundred drive by shootings without anyone getting hit.
Simple answers to complex problems are not solutions.
What I said was that current federal law should be vigorously enforced.
Holder and Lynch prosecuted fewer federal gun crimes than their predecessors, including felon in possession. Hopefully that is because there are fewer to prosecute. Although I voted for Obama twice, I'm not a fan of his AG picks.

As for having no regulation, I don't know of anyone, outside of a couple of Canadian anarchists on You Tube, buy into that idea. I do agree with criminologist Gary Kleck and civil rights lawyer Don Kates that the biggest obstacle to moderate licensing systems like Austria and the Czech Republic are the openly prohibitionists who will try to take a mile out of any inch.

Guns don't kill people; mindem Jan 2016 #1
Guns make it easy forgotmylogin Jan 2016 #26
according to the Wright Rossi study in the 1980s gejohnston Jan 2016 #2
So, is the counter proposal ... earthside Jan 2016 #3
that study was done before the current federal background checks gejohnston Jan 2016 #5
who is calling for NO background checks Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #6
I'm not saying that someone in particular is ... earthside Jan 2016 #10
Better enforcement of the existing laws and a major upgrade in the NICS system is a good start DonP Jan 2016 #13
Concerning UBCs... Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #24
Two words. Straw Man Jan 2016 #4
why no arrests? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #7
227 arrests ... earthside Jan 2016 #12
227 out of 6590? Straw Man Jan 2016 #18
I think many Coloradans would say the new laws are working. earthside Jan 2016 #19
I'm not sure what we're looking at there. Straw Man Jan 2016 #25
mean ole guns....why won't they stop killing people. ileus Jan 2016 #8
Is there any intention on your part to address the tremendous "trust deficit" that accompanies Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #9
Gun control people feel the same way about gun rights people. earthside Jan 2016 #11
NRA pushed for NICS Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #14
I'm for minimal restrictions. earthside Jan 2016 #16
After Sandy Hook gun control activists poisoned every proposal with talks of bans and registration. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #21
Link please. mikeysnot Jan 2016 #27
That's what *you* claim about your counterparts. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #15
Except that 'gun rights people' aren't trying to take any thing away or limit the personal choices.. beevul Jan 2016 #17
FWIW, gun rights activist here...and helped pass my state's UBC law. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #20
A BGC law is a good thing but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #22
Several reasons krispos42 Jan 2016 #23
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