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Gun Control & RKBA

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earthside

(6,960 posts)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 11:34 PM Jan 2016

"Guns don't kill people; people kill people." [View all]

I've heard that NRA slogan for years and years.

Okay, let's concede the point.

How then can gun rights advocates reasonably keep raising objections to background checks?

This is what perplexes me -- perhaps background checks are not totally effective and criminals will find ways of getting guns by circumventing the law -- but background checks seems to me to validate the "Guns don't kill people; people kill people" argument.

Why, therefore, does the NRA, GOA and other firearms rights groups protest so much when background checks are made to work more effectively? Or is this just a political game for the NRA, the Repuglicans, and weapons manufacturers?

In my state, there is mounting evidence that universal background checks work:

Colorado gun background checks denied 6,590 buyers last year - KOAA-TV

COLORADO SPRINGS - Universal background checks stopped some 6,590 people in Colorado from buying guns last year and also resulted in the arrests of 227 fugitives. The most recent statistics from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation also show that through November, the most common reason a gun buyer was denied was for a past assault conviction or arrest.


My hunch is that the NRA et al. keep moving the goal posts so that gun makers can make more money each time this issue comes up (the same people buying more and more guns) and because they see this as a political tool.

I don't think the NRA and Repuglicans really care too much about intellectual consistency as long as they can keep the anger level up against Pres. Obama and Democrats.
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Guns don't kill people; mindem Jan 2016 #1
Guns make it easy forgotmylogin Jan 2016 #26
according to the Wright Rossi study in the 1980s gejohnston Jan 2016 #2
So, is the counter proposal ... earthside Jan 2016 #3
that study was done before the current federal background checks gejohnston Jan 2016 #5
who is calling for NO background checks Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #6
I'm not saying that someone in particular is ... earthside Jan 2016 #10
Better enforcement of the existing laws and a major upgrade in the NICS system is a good start DonP Jan 2016 #13
Concerning UBCs... Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #24
Two words. Straw Man Jan 2016 #4
why no arrests? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #7
227 arrests ... earthside Jan 2016 #12
227 out of 6590? Straw Man Jan 2016 #18
I think many Coloradans would say the new laws are working. earthside Jan 2016 #19
I'm not sure what we're looking at there. Straw Man Jan 2016 #25
mean ole guns....why won't they stop killing people. ileus Jan 2016 #8
Is there any intention on your part to address the tremendous "trust deficit" that accompanies Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #9
Gun control people feel the same way about gun rights people. earthside Jan 2016 #11
NRA pushed for NICS Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #14
I'm for minimal restrictions. earthside Jan 2016 #16
After Sandy Hook gun control activists poisoned every proposal with talks of bans and registration. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #21
Link please. mikeysnot Jan 2016 #27
That's what *you* claim about your counterparts. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #15
Except that 'gun rights people' aren't trying to take any thing away or limit the personal choices.. beevul Jan 2016 #17
FWIW, gun rights activist here...and helped pass my state's UBC law. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #20
A BGC law is a good thing but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #22
Several reasons krispos42 Jan 2016 #23
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