Weapons common on Oregon college campus despite 'gun-free zone'

[jimmy the one]

70. wrong about a lot

beevul: Wrong about what?

Wrong that you thought she wasn't an experienced & trained former police officer serving on security detail:

I wrote: a former cop who was the security guard, which differentiates her {assam} immensely from the regular crop of civilian gun owners carrying a ccw or gun."
beevul #32 replied: Make your case counselor. You asserted it, now prove it. not just in the general sense, but HER {Jeanne assam}. You said it differentiates HER> Prove it.
http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/1172167494#post10

OK, here - SNOPES FACT CHECK: Jeanne Assam wasn’t quite a random churchgoer who just happened to show up at the service fortuitously carrying a weapon that day, however: she was a former police officer and volunteer church security guard who was aware of the earlier attack at the Youth with a Mission training center, had suggested that the New Life Church add extra security, and was armed as part of the church’s security team that day for that very reason.
Assam worked as a police officer in downtown Minneapolis during the 1990s and is licensed to carry a weapon. Assam was the one who suggested the church beef up its security Sunday following the Arvada shooting, which it did. The pastor credited the security plan and the extra security for preventing further bloodshed.

beevul: I never claimed she was a random church goer

Yes you did in the sense you mislead readers to believe she was a random ccw carrier:

zoeisright: In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian with a gun.

beevul post 3: Demonstrably factually incorrect.
{beevul cites wiki}: At this point, Assam opened fire on Murray with her personally owned concealed weapon.
beevul: So..."not a single case", is incorrect, considering that there are two examples posted in this thread. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022004014

beevul post 10: There is no doubt what so ever that the lady with the ccw STOPPED the shooter there