Gun Control & RKBA

pablo_marmol

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20. Nope.

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:30 AM

Oct 2015

Back around '83 Jimmy Carter Commissioned liberal criminologists James Wright and Peter Rossi to study the effects of "gun control". To Jimmy's dismay, and the criminologists' own surprise they were forced to report that their findings indicated no relationship between gun control and gun violence. Other left-leaning criminologists started their careers assuming a relationship between the raw numbers of guns and gun violence.....only to reverse their position as empirical evidence failed to back up that belief. Go to Amazon and read the book reviews for Wright & Rossi's Under the Gun. Do the same for (liberal) Gary Kleck's Targeting Guns.

All three of these criminologists believe that focusing of guns is a waste of limited resources that could be better spent elsewhere; such as dealing with opportunity inequality, poverty, and the nation's drug issue.

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Guns as a deterent [View all] Turbineguy Oct 2015 OP

Guns don't deter crime - Jobs with living wages deter crime tk2kewl Oct 2015 #1

+1 daleanime Oct 2015 #3

education too tk2kewl Oct 2015 #4

A more accurate assessment: Guns deter or protect one from attacks... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #11

really? tk2kewl Oct 2015 #12

USA has 320,000,000 civilian arms. Homicide rates keep going down. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #16

Nope. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #20

It's simple, if they want to include all the fantasy of 'deterred' crime.... daleanime Oct 2015 #2

Fantasy and fear mikeysnot Oct 2015 #5

you'll get dueling banjos jimmy the one Oct 2015 #6

Thanks. Turbineguy Oct 2015 #7

Here, mate. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #13

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss Dr. Gary Kleck. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #21

The CDC considered sarisataka Oct 2015 #8

Myth of Specific Cause Bias Turbineguy Oct 2015 #9

Here's the CDC sponsored study. branford Oct 2015 #14

It's probably propaganda. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #10

By an excutive order Obama gave the CDC ten million dollars to do a report on gun violence. ... spin Oct 2015 #15

Spin, you have always been very open minded and sane on this topic. Thanks for the post. nt Logical Oct 2015 #17

Thanks for your support. (n/t) spin Oct 2015 #22

That is 7,000 DGU a day? I say BS on that. I think many gun fans love bragging about it to justify.. Logical Oct 2015 #18

After getting my pee-pee wacked on a few threads I've come up Turbineguy Oct 2015 #19

Well, you have to figure that in high-crime areas krispos42 Oct 2015 #23

Oh, and I guess self-defense would include defense against animals. krispos42 Oct 2015 #24