Weapons common on Oregon college campus despite 'gun-free zone'

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65. You're asking for proof of a logical fallacy.

If a CCW stops a shooter from executing a mass shooting, by definition, it's not a mass shooting. Likewise, if a shooting becomes a mass shooting by casualty count, then even if the CCW bearer -does- stop the shooter, the casualty count still qualifies the shooting (even if stopped) as a mass shooting.


Therefore, it is a logical impossibility to stop a "mass shooting", since if it qualifies as a mass shooting, it was not, by definition, "stopped" by the CCWer.

You are quite literally asking for the impossible.


What I linked were, to the best of my knowledge, situations that, in honest examinations, -would have- turned into mass shootings if the shooter was left unmolested by CCW holders. In the instance you cited, the construction foreman stopped a threat that obviously had the intent of becoming a mass shooter. The shooter in that instance showed up, started firing indiscriminately (mass shooter in progress if left unmolested) but was shot before he could continue executing his plan.

If we're ever going to discuss violence civilly and with a reasonable expectation of progress, we need to be able to admit when we're wrong, JTO. That applies to both sides equally, and since you definitely know your shit, a measure of intellectual honesty on your part would be a great thing. With people like me on the RKBA side and people like you on the GCRA side, if we can ever put aside the childish sniping, we can actually come up with some astonishingly effective ideas, mate. I'd urge you to actually consider the notion of a "ceasefire" on the partisan defense and work with us.

Anyways, see you when you get online next.