Gun Control & RKBA

jimmy the one

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6. you'll get dueling banjos

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:53 AM

Oct 2015

turbine: One of my students informs me that 2 million crimes per year are deterred by guns "....but you don't see that on the news..." I don't know how to even begin researching that.

You're just going to get here, both pro gun vs gun control sides of it; my view is that dgu's are relatively quite small compared to crime index.
Kleck's dgu study included something like 35% 'verbal' dgus, where all the dgu entailed was somebody saying 'go away or I'll get my gun', and this was a valid dgu by kleck. His study had all of 2 dgu killings (both deaths the same dgu iirc), plus ~11 woundings. It was really quite comical on scrutiny, how he extrapolated his 5,000 phone calls to the entire country.
Here is a gun control link:
http://www.armedwithreason.com/tag/defensive-gun-use/

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Guns as a deterent [View all] Turbineguy Oct 2015 OP

Guns don't deter crime - Jobs with living wages deter crime tk2kewl Oct 2015 #1

+1 daleanime Oct 2015 #3

education too tk2kewl Oct 2015 #4

A more accurate assessment: Guns deter or protect one from attacks... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #11

really? tk2kewl Oct 2015 #12

USA has 320,000,000 civilian arms. Homicide rates keep going down. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #16

Nope. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #20

It's simple, if they want to include all the fantasy of 'deterred' crime.... daleanime Oct 2015 #2

Fantasy and fear mikeysnot Oct 2015 #5

you'll get dueling banjos jimmy the one Oct 2015 #6

Thanks. Turbineguy Oct 2015 #7

Here, mate. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #13

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss Dr. Gary Kleck. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #21

The CDC considered sarisataka Oct 2015 #8

Myth of Specific Cause Bias Turbineguy Oct 2015 #9

Here's the CDC sponsored study. branford Oct 2015 #14

It's probably propaganda. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #10

By an excutive order Obama gave the CDC ten million dollars to do a report on gun violence. ... spin Oct 2015 #15

Spin, you have always been very open minded and sane on this topic. Thanks for the post. nt Logical Oct 2015 #17

Thanks for your support. (n/t) spin Oct 2015 #22

That is 7,000 DGU a day? I say BS on that. I think many gun fans love bragging about it to justify.. Logical Oct 2015 #18

After getting my pee-pee wacked on a few threads I've come up Turbineguy Oct 2015 #19

Well, you have to figure that in high-crime areas krispos42 Oct 2015 #23

Oh, and I guess self-defense would include defense against animals. krispos42 Oct 2015 #24