Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
53. trip down memory lane for bull weasels
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:58 PM
Oct 2015

beevul: I'm (still) sorry james. The poster I originally replied to set the criteria. The new life church shooting fits the criteria set by that poster.

You're sorry alright. More dodge ball from beevul, can't man up & face the fact he's trapped. Let's take a trip down memory lane, & review what beevul has said on this very subject back in june 2015, added emphasis:

jun 3, 2015, beevul #30: Hey jimmy, guess what a volunteer security guard who is a former cop is. A CIVILIAN. http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/1172167494#post10

I wrote: a former cop who was the security guard, which differentiates her {assam} immensely from the regular crop of civilian gun owners carrying a ccw or gun."
beevul #32 replied: Make your case counselor. You asserted it, now prove it. not just in the general sense, but HER {Jeanne assam}. You said it differentiates HER> Prove it.

OK, here - SNOPES FACT CHECK: Jeanne Assam wasn’t quite a random churchgoer who just happened to show up at the service fortuitously carrying a weapon that day, however: she was a former police officer and volunteer church security guard who was aware of the earlier attack at the Youth with a Mission training center, had suggested that the New Life Church add extra security, and was armed as part of the church’s security team that day for that very reason.
Assam worked as a police officer in downtown Minneapolis during the 1990s and is licensed to carry a weapon. She attends one of the morning services and then volunteers as a guard during another service. Assam was the one who suggested the church beef up its security Sunday following the Arvada shooting, which it did. The pastor credited the security plan and the extra security for preventing further bloodshed.
Jeanne Assam maintained to us that she was still a member of the police force at the time of the church shooting and that was the one who killed Murray: "This message is regarding a post about me. It has a picture of me and words to the effect that I was just some random woman at New Life church when a gunman entered. The fact is that I am and was a police officer at the time of the shooting. I was part of the volunteer security team that day at the church."


Rebuttal by any bull weasels?

The campus is NOT gun free. SheilaT Oct 2015 #1
actually, they do have a gun free policy gejohnston Oct 2015 #2
Those numbers are highly suspect. SheilaT Oct 2015 #3
suspect? gejohnston Oct 2015 #4
wrong again batman jimmy the one Oct 2015 #19
nope, I'm right as always gejohnston Oct 2015 #23
mr ego says he's always right jimmy the one Oct 2015 #24
is your foot sore? jimmy the one Oct 2015 #25
you clearly missed the point gejohnston Oct 2015 #26
provide link jimmy the one Oct 2015 #29
Watts said a lot of things wrong in the clip gejohnston Oct 2015 #30
no support from your link to what you say jimmy the one Oct 2015 #31
Pfft. New life is just an example. beevul Oct 2015 #34
I can think of a couple examples gejohnston Oct 2015 #35
year of the rat jimmy the one Oct 2015 #36
I proved that she is a gejohnston Oct 2015 #37
3rd request to j man jimmy the one Oct 2015 #40
It was a video, not a tweet- but she still said it *and you know it, as you replied to it*: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #42
Also, Shannon Watts is demonstrated liar and a poor excuse for a Democrat... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #43
Big fan of GMO foods at Monsanto too. DonP Oct 2015 #44
OK, now PROVE IT jimmy the one Oct 2015 #48
Glad you asked, here's several: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #50
Massive Iconic Fail jimmy the one Oct 2015 #52
I believe my examples met your criteria. Whether *you* agree or disagree is not my concern n/t friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #54
I don't report and alert gejohnston Oct 2015 #45
4th request jimmy the one Oct 2015 #49
Shannon Watts is a proven liar and a piss-poor excuse for a Democrat friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #51
10:04 in the video. You're wrong. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #55
Another one jumps in the briar patch jimmy the one Oct 2015 #59
You, and Shannon Watts, are still wrong, and she's still a liar. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #62
not applicable jimmy the one Oct 2015 #64
You're asking for proof of a logical fallacy. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #65
prevented is not stopped jimmy the one Oct 2015 #67
Don't take the shouting and handwaving too much to heart- we're dealing with a version of these: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #61
See, I don't think Jimmy's really a flat earther. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #63
a fake faking it jimmy the one Oct 2015 #68
shannon tweet jimmy the one Oct 2015 #69
sure gejohnston Oct 2015 #56
Pot, stop calling the kettle black. beevul Oct 2015 #33
It's the same reason kudzu22 Oct 2015 #5
Respectfully, carrying a weapon is for self-defense, not strategic law enforcement... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #8
"What we never get..." beevul Oct 2015 #14
former cop, working as security guard jimmy the one Oct 2015 #18
I think youre having some troubles. beevul Oct 2015 #20
go away jimmy the one Oct 2015 #21
Volunteer security... Wouldn't want you to miss that detail. beevul Oct 2015 #22
poor you jimmy the one Oct 2015 #28
Oh, I'm sorry, beevul Oct 2015 #32
snopes fact check on assam jimmy the one Oct 2015 #38
more truth about jeanne assam jimmy the one Oct 2015 #39
I'm still sorry. beevul Oct 2015 #41
trip down memory lane for bull weasels jimmy the one Oct 2015 #53
There isn't much there to rebut. beevul Oct 2015 #57
I believe one of gejohnston's graphics best describes the situation: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #58
wrong again batman beevul jimmy the one Oct 2015 #60
Wrong about what? beevul Oct 2015 #66
wrong about a lot jimmy the one Oct 2015 #70
Firearms don't have guided bullets....line of sight only. ileus Oct 2015 #11
Most "gun free zone" policies have no force of law. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #6
That should be changed. No reason to coddle terrorists on university campuses. stone space Oct 2015 #9
back to you old self I see Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #10
As usual, I see you are still missing the target. Lurks Often Oct 2015 #13
This is a lie. stone space Oct 2015 #15
That is exactly what you meant Lurks Often Oct 2015 #17
Ya know stone, GGJohn Oct 2015 #47
So do you believe sarisataka Oct 2015 #16
You said, and I quote: GGJohn Oct 2015 #46
So, a dozen students with guns. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #7
Our hospital is the same way, we have those silly little signs on the doors ileus Oct 2015 #12
for the nra - the shooter killed himself so more arms would have had him bring more weapons patsimp Oct 2015 #27
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»Weapons common on Oregon ...»Reply #53