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beardown

(363 posts)
44. Before you double down on your "believe drugs should be illegal" statement...
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:33 PM
Oct 2015

Often times ending the war on some drugs is proposed here. Often. Not unanimous, but I'd say it's a very strong majority of the comments I've seen. Years ago, I saw a chart on the murder rate over the 1900's and two large spikes showed up. One coincided with the 18th amendment, albeit the rate was already going up before 1920, but the decline started about the time of the repeal in 1933 and the second the ramp up of the war on some drugs you see the rate climbing in the early 1970's until it's peak around the early 1990's and it's continued decline to historic lows. Putting millions of dollars of drugs on the streets provided the buying power and motivation to protect turf and the dealers were going to jail with or without gun crimes so they had nothing to lose and everything to gain by arming up to the teeth.

Social and economic equality and security, you know, the old style democratic party stuff, are often times called for by pro gun posters.

Per an amendment to prevent confiscation, dream on folks. Even if it would be approved, the govt (both repub and democratic ones) has shown little restraint in bypassing or ignoring the majority of the BOR and finding favorable judicial rulings to cut the original Bill of Rights down to the Bill of Right and that one only covers something about state voting. Tens of thousands of law abiding Americans have had their cash seized by law enforcement and then are faced with going to court and it's attendant costs and time delays to recover their cash which is generally given as a bounty, 21st century American privateers like, to the law enforcement unit that seized the cash. Over 100,000 Japanese Americans (over 60 percent American citizens) could tell you how well they were protected by the Constitution in 1942 and not only was their internment validated in 1944 by the Supreme Court, but later records proved the Census Bureau aided in the roundup with census data.

You're not paranoid if they are really out to get you or in this case the BOR.

Universal Background Checks for firearms [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 OP
No. Better to repeal the 2nd Amendment. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #1
As usual... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #2
Giving Gun Worshipers another Amendment to further Sanctify their Religion is not an step forward. stone space Oct 2015 #3
Neither is your course toward cultural purity. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #4
Wow! GGJohn Oct 2015 #13
He does good Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #20
"Religion?" I don't think you'd like my holy water. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #29
I'm an atheist. I don't want your religion forced on me. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #36
Oh, no force necessary. At my age, it flows freely! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #37
I'm not a gun worshiper. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #38
Cool, either am I Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #41
Cool, GGJohn Oct 2015 #45
You spend a lot time trying to force your views on the rest of us Lurks Often Oct 2015 #40
Almost like Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #42
By all means, get off the couch and get started DonP Oct 2015 #5
It's the OP asking for a new Amendment. Suggest you take it up with him. stone space Oct 2015 #7
So, as usual, sit on your hands instead of standing up for what you believe in DonP Oct 2015 #8
He sure likes that public funding Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #21
The word you're searching for: "Indolent." nt Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #30
Indolent, lazy, cheap, ineffectual, they all work. n/t DonP Oct 2015 #43
You're the one who want's to repeal the 2A, GGJohn Oct 2015 #14
What fantasy land do you live where that is remotely possible? Lurks Often Oct 2015 #10
He says he lives in the real world Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #22
Just because he says it, certainly doesn't make it true. Lurks Often Oct 2015 #24
Where the unicorn farts rainbows over Michgan Avenue! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #31
Well then, you should get right on it. GGJohn Oct 2015 #12
Yes add Oklahoma Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #23
Finally. One of those 'second amendment extremists' I've heard so much about... beevul Oct 2015 #25
Bugs you, huh? (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #34
Not in the least, GGJohn Oct 2015 #46
All I can give you is a big MAYBE. beemer27 Oct 2015 #6
You're welcome and thanks for the thoughtful reply discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #9
No, because I don't think that structure would do any good petronius Oct 2015 #11
The criteria would be being found guilty of crime... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #15
I am against UBCs without real compromise. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #16
Sounds great but one question discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #17
"E" is just too inflamatory for gun control people. It makes them crazy. DonP Oct 2015 #19
Its because 'E' has three barrels... beevul Oct 2015 #26
Sounds like my experience with describing Chicago gun laws as Jim (large, raucous black bird). Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #32
Edited. See Don P's post for an explanation. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #47
good work n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #50
Concur with petronius and kang colby, edgineered Oct 2015 #18
This is a reasonable proposal for this gun owner...Controllers? Not so much. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #27
Why? They make progress on gun control, specifically background checks Kang Colby Oct 2015 #48
I am skeptical because much of the rhetoric here and elsewhere is characterized... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #49
Hmmm... deathrind Oct 2015 #28
"...believe drugs should be illegal?" From The Anti-Ammosexual Handbook of Reality? Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #33
you do need a license to sell firearms gejohnston Oct 2015 #35
Thats the problem with unrealistic thinking... beevul Oct 2015 #39
Before you double down on your "believe drugs should be illegal" statement... beardown Oct 2015 #44
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