Gun Control & RKBA

petronius

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11. No, because I don't think that structure would do any good

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:52 PM

Oct 2015

If you don't define the criteria for confiscation, then all the due process and appeals won't matter if laws can be changed to make the confiscation legal. (That said, I would like an amendment restricting and controlling seizure and confiscations in general--asset forfeiture and eminent domain and the the like.)

I think what you are going for would be a law/amendment specifying that any firearms currently legal at the passage of the UBC law will remain legal permanently. That I would support, although I think it would make more sense attached to registration (perhaps you're expecting that in the context of UBCs?) rather than UBCs themselves. UBCs without record or registration don't seem to raise a confiscation risk...

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Universal Background Checks for firearms [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 OP

No. Better to repeal the 2nd Amendment. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #1

As usual... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #2

Giving Gun Worshipers another Amendment to further Sanctify their Religion is not an step forward. stone space Oct 2015 #3

Neither is your course toward cultural purity. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #4

Wow! GGJohn Oct 2015 #13

He does good Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #20

"Religion?" I don't think you'd like my holy water. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #29

I'm an atheist. I don't want your religion forced on me. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #36

Oh, no force necessary. At my age, it flows freely! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #37

I'm not a gun worshiper. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #38

Cool, either am I Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #41

Cool, GGJohn Oct 2015 #45

You spend a lot time trying to force your views on the rest of us Lurks Often Oct 2015 #40

Almost like Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #42

By all means, get off the couch and get started DonP Oct 2015 #5

It's the OP asking for a new Amendment. Suggest you take it up with him. stone space Oct 2015 #7

So, as usual, sit on your hands instead of standing up for what you believe in DonP Oct 2015 #8

He sure likes that public funding Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #21

The word you're searching for: "Indolent." nt Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #30

Indolent, lazy, cheap, ineffectual, they all work. n/t DonP Oct 2015 #43

You're the one who want's to repeal the 2A, GGJohn Oct 2015 #14

What fantasy land do you live where that is remotely possible? Lurks Often Oct 2015 #10

He says he lives in the real world Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #22

Just because he says it, certainly doesn't make it true. Lurks Often Oct 2015 #24

Where the unicorn farts rainbows over Michgan Avenue! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #31

Well then, you should get right on it. GGJohn Oct 2015 #12

Yes add Oklahoma Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #23

Finally. One of those 'second amendment extremists' I've heard so much about... beevul Oct 2015 #25

Bugs you, huh? (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #34

Not in the least, GGJohn Oct 2015 #46

All I can give you is a big MAYBE. beemer27 Oct 2015 #6

You're welcome and thanks for the thoughtful reply discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #9

No, because I don't think that structure would do any good petronius Oct 2015 #11

The criteria would be being found guilty of crime... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #15

I am against UBCs without real compromise. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #16

Sounds great but one question discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #17

"E" is just too inflamatory for gun control people. It makes them crazy. DonP Oct 2015 #19

Its because 'E' has three barrels... beevul Oct 2015 #26

Sounds like my experience with describing Chicago gun laws as Jim (large, raucous black bird). Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #32

Edited. See Don P's post for an explanation. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #47

good work n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #50

Concur with petronius and kang colby, edgineered Oct 2015 #18

This is a reasonable proposal for this gun owner...Controllers? Not so much. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #27

Why? They make progress on gun control, specifically background checks Kang Colby Oct 2015 #48

I am skeptical because much of the rhetoric here and elsewhere is characterized... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #49

Hmmm... deathrind Oct 2015 #28

"...believe drugs should be illegal?" From The Anti-Ammosexual Handbook of Reality? Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #33

you do need a license to sell firearms gejohnston Oct 2015 #35

Thats the problem with unrealistic thinking... beevul Oct 2015 #39

Before you double down on your "believe drugs should be illegal" statement... beardown Oct 2015 #44