Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Weapons common on Oregon college campus despite 'gun-free zone' [View all]jimmy the one
(2,717 posts)beevul: Did you really think I would just let that bald faced lie go without shining a spotlight on it? Behold:
Readers, behold a charlatan above, taking my sentence out of context. If anyone interested, reread my post 28 to see thru beevul's faulty argument.
As to beevul's insidious wiggling, snopes rates this 'partly' true, which also means partly not true, and it doesn't bode well for poor beevul, not well at all. Snopes reveals info beevul was either unaware of or didn't want to post. I was unaware of some of this as well, or I certainly would've posted it sooner. Assam claims to have been a police officer at the time of her shooting, and, she had been alerted by the previous attack at arvada. Sure, she was an armed member of the congregation, a trained cop acting as a security guard:
SNOPES: FACT CHECK - PARTLY TRUE: ... Was a Colorado church shooting stopped by an armed member of the congregation?
According to the meme, a woman named Jeanne Assam was in attendance during a similar armed attack on a church but was able to shoot and wound the assailant, halting the attack.
The attack ultimately stopped by Assam occurred in two phases in Colorado on 9 Dec 2007, starting at the Youth with a Mission (YWAM) training center in Arvada. At that location, shooter Matthew Murray killed two churchgoers and wounded two more before fleeing to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs.
At the second location, Murray killed two more victims and wounded three others before Jeanne Assam, who was present at the church service taking place there, fired at Murray and struck him several times, ending his assault.
Jeanne Assam wasnt quite a random churchgoer who just happened to show up at the service fortuitously carrying a weapon that day, however: she was a former police officer and volunteer church security guard who was aware of the earlier attack at the Youth with a Mission training center, had suggested that the New Life Church add extra security, and was armed as part of the churchs security team that day for that very reason:
Assam worked as a police officer in downtown Minneapolis during the 1990s and is licensed to carry a weapon. She attends one of the morning services and then volunteers as a guard during another service.
[New Lifes Senior Pastor Brady] Boyd said Assam was the one who suggested the church beef up its security Sunday following the Arvada shooting, which it did. The pastor credited the security plan and the extra security for preventing further bloodshed.
Boyd said there are 15 to 20 security people at the church. All are volunteers but the only ones armed are those who are licensed to carry weapons.
A number of news accounts of the incident described Assam as a former police officer and reported that Matthew Murrays fatal wound was self-inflicted. However, Jeanne Assam maintained to us that she was still a member of the police force at the time of the church shooting and that was the one who killed Murray:
This message is regarding a post about me. It has a picture of me and words to the effect that I was just some random woman at New Life church when a gunman entered. The fact is that I am and was a police officer at the time of the shooting. I was part of the volunteer security team that day at the church.
Outside in the parking lot, Murray shot 5 more people, killing 2 and wounding 3 others before I engaged and killed him inside the church, shooting and striking him 10 times. I engaged and killed the gunman. I was 5 feet from him when I had to fire the last of 10 accurate rounds. He did not kill himself and I am the one who got his blood all over my clothes from arterial spray. Trust me, if he killed himself, I would have both seen and heard it. He didnt.
Please post the TRUTH regarding my incident. That post floating around about me is completely FALSE.
While Assam was initially hailed as a hero for minimizing loss of life during the shooting at great personal risk, she later said she was asked to leave New Life Church because of her sexuality (although the church disputed the claim).
Last updated: 17 Sep 2015 http://m.snopes.com/jeanne-assam/#V5AylQuJdi7ad8cU.99