Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Weapons common on Oregon college campus despite 'gun-free zone' [View all]jimmy the one
(2,717 posts)beevul: It would be an admission that "yes, we do get instances where "ome active shooter somewhere, another person has a gun, and BANG! The original shooter is now dead", and terminology had to be changed to discount it.
It isn't sheila's terminology that is the disgrace, it's beevul's making it seem an average gun owner stopped the new life shooting.
beevul: The lady that stopped that shooter was not police. She was former police. One either is, or is not employed by a police department. She was not.
Duh, AFTER one has been employed by a police dept, one has generally become experienced in both gun handling & how to properly handle criminal incidents.
beevul: As to her status as security, she volunteered, with a personally owned handgun.
Which means that as security guard (& former cop) she was prepared & at the ready to handle criminal activity, since that was her job. She had been previously trained as a cop & was on watch, jeez, does it get hot in your cookoo clock?
beevul: And, you added the qualification of CCW which the poster of the sentence in question did not.
No I did not apply ccw to Sheila's remark. To Sheila's remark I wrote: Beevul misleads that the killer-gunman was shot by a 'largo' citizen with a gun, to disprove what Sheila was saying.
I wrote, adding 'ccw' in reply to the security guard assam shooting the church shooter, on the premise a church member having a concealed pistol could've done it similarly: A former police officer working as a church security guard is not what is meant by 'intervention by a citizen with a ccw permit carrying concealed'.
Just realized this too, since you harp on technicality:
Sheila: What we never get are reports of some active shooter somewhere, another person has a gun, and BANG! The original shooter is now dead.
beevul wrote: Yes we do: (new life church shooting)
Technically you're wrong, since assam didn't kill the shooter (only wounded), he shot himself.. after suffering multiple hits from Assam's gun, Murray fatally shot himself
Poor you.