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jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
62. alarmed at your ethics
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:04 PM
Oct 2015

gjohnston: truth bother you Jimmy?

You call a blogger defending a far rightwing gun organization, the truth?
You call what john marshall wrote the 'truth'?, speciously including 'hateful' to make it seem they're being picked on: 'The hateful rhetoric focused on the NRA at times like these is unfair, and ignorant.
What was it when nra lapierre-head said Bill Clinton enjoyed seeing kids & people shot since it jacked up support for gun control? the truth?

You call this the truth?, a fabricated expedient 'truth' by marshall to justify nra's extreme lunacy: Of course the organization is extreme, because organizations that exist to protect rights must by their nature be vigilant against incremental incursions on the rights they protect.
this is the truth to you Johnston? is Shannon watts an extreme opponent?: They {nra} stake out the extreme defense against extreme opponents of those rights and the citizens they protect.
You call this the truth??? In this the NRA is no different from the NARAL, or the Baseball Players Association, or the Sierra Club, NOW, or the ACLU,

Lunatic fringe it's better put for the nra bd of directors, the others not. Did marshall say anything about the nra fleecing people for donations the past 30 years? buying off republican politicians? misrepresenting those opposed to their points of view? including even politicos who they once supported? The nra is only rarely mainstream America, nra generally advocates asinine hard right positions, which most of us democrats could not support (excluding you dino Johnston). Marshall's specious manipulations put the nra in a good light.

Johnston: truth bother you Jimmy?

You want I should take a few hours & compile a medley of your posts where you were either lying or fabricating or half truthing? Your links, your sources tend to be a joke, since you rarely cite from them - you usually post 'links alone' (liar's links) as if they support you by default or something.
Here you were labeling brady campaign making 'one sided claims', when the links you posted to disprove brady, 3 of 4 were from 'one sided' rightwing sources!!!!

july 5, 2015: Johnston: Everything else is one sided claims from Brady Campaign, who can't even tell the truth about fundraising. Citing the Brady Campaign is like citing the NRA, and should be taken just as seriously.
jimmy the one: Yet 3 of the 4 links which Johnston cites, are from 'one sided' apparently right wing pro gun sources, a right wing author from 'ethics alarms', 'arms and the law', as well as right leaning democrat gary kleck's 'point blank' book via amazon.

post 8 and 18, then more: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172170778

Here's Johnston denying he said 'one sided claims':

Post 23: johnston: I didn't say anything about "one sided claims" Jimmy, I said accurate and unbiased.
post 8: Johnston: Everything else is one sided claims from Brady Campaign, who can't even tell the truth about fundraising.


This Josh Marshall from ethics alarm might have occasional unbiased views, but it doesn't justify his right wing coddling to some extreme groups, just to create some specious facade that he's trying to remain 'fair'. I think josh marshall might be pandering to all sides, in order to gain rapport with gosh golly everyone.
Here's a couple blogs, neither of which I endorse since new to me, tell me what you think of their views, j man:

Apr 2010 Ethics Alarms Go Off, "It's Jack Marshall! It's Jack Marshall!" I had never heard of Jack Marshall until he made clear he believed Eric Turkewitz to be the scourge of ethical lawyers everywhere by, um, playing an April Fool's Joke that snared the New York Times. Jack is the most ethical person in the universe, just ask him. Anyone who disagrees with him, is.... not-ethical. He's right, he's right, he's right, and everyone else is wrong.
http://mylawlicense.blogspot.com/2010/04/ethics-alarms-go-off-its-jack-marshall.html

One could say (and one did) that Chris Cuomo and Kate Bolduan got off the rough start on their CNN morning show.. Except that… their show hasn’t even debuted yet. That little factoid still didn’t stop the blog Ethics Alarms from slamming Cuomo and Bolduan he issued this hilarious pseudo-correction:
josh.. Update, correction, and a mystery: When I wrote this post, the designated Dunces were identified as Chris Cuomo and Kate Bolduan, the new kids on the CNN block.. a helpful reader tells me that Cuomo and Bolduan haven’t debuted yet.. If someone knows who the pair was I watched before Carol Costello made her always unwelcome entrance, I will identify the real dunces. For now, I’ll just apologize to Chris and Kate.
In an effort to assist Mr. Marshall, I present a new tool called the Google Machine. http://www.mediaite.com/online/bloggers-got-talent-in-egg-filled-irony-ethics-alarms-gets-cnn-hosts-wrong/

This has been hashed over for years. Still keeping mine. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #1
Not safer, just able to respond without waiting from 30min - 12 years. ileus Oct 2015 #2
Good for you ... don't particularly care what you or Mother Jones thinks DonP Oct 2015 #3
Please feel free to... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #4
Yes. Make your own decision. These are statistics, and people living in isolated areas JDPriestly Oct 2015 #6
Just to piss off people that want to ban it.... NT virginia mountainman Oct 2015 #5
Any coherent study... deathrind Oct 2015 #7
I own guns for recreation. nt hack89 Oct 2015 #8
You're unhealthy...may I recommend a dietary supplement? ileus Oct 2015 #14
Mother Jones debunked gejohnston Oct 2015 #9
Hmmm, debunked by a gun worship site that louis-t Oct 2015 #10
Also remember, the CDC is banned from doing research about gun deaths. louis-t Oct 2015 #11
Ummm, no, not really - CDC Ban Lifted by President Obama DonP Oct 2015 #12
Mass shootings are declining? louis-t Oct 2015 #15
CDC data collection discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #17
By the way, nice cherry-picking of the report. louis-t Oct 2015 #16
See post #17 and read it slowly this time. DonP Oct 2015 #18
Did you actually read the article associated with the quote? louis-t Oct 2015 #24
the problem with that study was not that the NRA didn't like it gejohnston Oct 2015 #27
So, the solution was to give the NRA louis-t Oct 2015 #28
the ban isn't on research gejohnston Oct 2015 #30
And you are only focusing on parts of the studies that you don't like. louis-t Oct 2015 #31
according to leading criminologists at the time gejohnston Oct 2015 #34
Wait, now the ban is on 'lobbying'? louis-t Oct 2015 #36
the CDC is part of the government gejohnston Oct 2015 #37
Yes. As it SHOULD BE. wanna lobby? Do it on your own tab. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #58
If you're interested, here's an interesting article detailing the issues branford Oct 2015 #35
So you send me another opinion piece? louis-t Oct 2015 #40
So, studies and research you agree with are "facts," branford Oct 2015 #42
You think the NRA will ever "compromise"? louis-t Oct 2015 #46
what are willing to give up in return? gejohnston Oct 2015 #47
All my guns. You? stone space Oct 2015 #53
First, the NRA need not compromise. They're actually almost irrelevant. branford Oct 2015 #48
Define "extraordinarily rare". louis-t Oct 2015 #66
What percentage of the 80-100+ million legal firearm owners branford Oct 2015 #67
Throwing in percentage versus number of mass shootings is diversion. louis-t Oct 2015 #68
Violent crime has been cut by about half in the last few decades, branford Oct 2015 #70
The relative frequency of gun deaths in other countries that permit guns -- Switzerland and JDPriestly Oct 2015 #19
there are an infinite possiblities gejohnston Oct 2015 #22
We need real research on this issue, not just assumptions and unfounded conclusions. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #23
suicides and gangs gejohnston Oct 2015 #25
As long as the NRA is allowed to defeat funding for research louis-t Oct 2015 #29
Good point! JDPriestly Oct 2015 #32
That will never happen. louis-t Oct 2015 #38
to quote ethics blogger Josh Marshall gejohnston Oct 2015 #39
defending nra here, how low can u go jimmy the one Oct 2015 #43
truth bother you Jimmy? gejohnston Oct 2015 #45
alarmed at your ethics jimmy the one Oct 2015 #62
just as I expected gejohnston Oct 2015 #71
gun fly in the ointment jimmy the one Oct 2015 #41
Um no, the CDC gun research ban was not lifted by Obama. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #52
I tried to tell him that already. louis-t Oct 2015 #69
It all depends on the definition of "safer" being used. ManiacJoe Oct 2015 #13
Apparently the statistical evidence is either mixed on that or differently interpreted. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #20
Your inquiry is certainly reasonable, branford Oct 2015 #21
but it does not fit into 140 Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #26
I don't tweet -- I'm a little, too, to use a euphemism, verbal for that. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #33
The difference is going to be largely cultural. ManiacJoe Oct 2015 #44
The majority of car accidents happen within 5 miles of your home. uppityperson Oct 2015 #49
True. I suppose that is where we drive the most often, where we pay the least attention and JDPriestly Oct 2015 #50
A lot of those "Accidents" and about 20k of those suicides are gun deaths. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #51
20K gejohnston Oct 2015 #54
21,175 according to the CDC. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #57
I'm sure you can provide a link or are you making things up Lurks Often Oct 2015 #55
Sure. The stats on kids getting shot by accident are revolting. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #56
And that rate has been falling for years: Gun-owners acting responsibly. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #59
Not the accidental and gun suicide death rate. Just crime. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #60
And "crime" has been going down or up? Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #65
Crime is going down as our population ages. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #72
CDC 2013 numbers Lurks Often Oct 2015 #61
Says a lot about you that you think 69 young kids needlessly dying each year is "not a lot." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #63
It says a lot about YOU that you define .0019 percent as a lot Lurks Often Oct 2015 #64
Per CDC, 505 of the 130,557 annual accidental deaths are gun deaths. That's .39% SunSeeker Oct 2015 #73
It's .0019 percent of ALL deaths in the United States in 2013 Lurks Often Oct 2015 #74
What is the point of comparing gun deaths to age-related deaths? Everyone dies. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #75
Work on your own logic and stop moving the goal posts Lurks Often Oct 2015 #76
People who want reasonable gun control are not "extremists." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #77
You care so much that you post about Chicago, Newark & DC a lot, oh wait, you don't. Lurks Often Oct 2015 #78
Americans do support gun control, it's our NRA fearing politicians that don't. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #79
You can't have it both ways Lurks Often Oct 2015 #80
It isn't the NRA's GOTV, it is the NRA's money spreading lies about Dem candidates. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #81
If it makes you feel better to think that then go ahead Lurks Often Oct 2015 #82
No, guns are inanimate... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #83
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