Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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27. Don't flatter yourself.

Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:38 AM

Oct 2015

You are no more "on the side of life" than anyone else here. Gun control is not the moral high ground, despite its claims. First, even the CDC recognizes the efficacy of armed self-defense:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2013/06/handguns_suicides_mass_shootings_deaths_and_self_defense_findings_from_a.html

Second, imagine an America that has eliminated legal gun ownership for civilians and has managed to round up all the previously legal guns. There will still be guns in the hands of cops, criminals, and the paid defenders of the rich and powerful. Why is it that you wish to privilege any of these groups over ordinary citizens? I'm not talking about overthrowing governments or any of those red herrings; I'm talking about the ability to protect one's person with a tool suitable for that purpose. Are their lives worth more than yours or mine?

Do you think that the lower classes should have to "take one for the team" when victimized by violent crime, while the upper classes and their privileged protectors should have a chance at an effective self-defense? Don't you think we have enough social stratification as it is?

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Mother Jones has a revelation on gun control.. [View all] virginia mountainman Oct 2015 OP

Too bad the 2nd amendment cant be read the way it is written, clearly NOT giving individuals randys1 Oct 2015 #1

Thats not how its written. beevul Oct 2015 #3

So let me get this striaght.. virginia mountainman Oct 2015 #4

Yes it's a bill of government rights....didn't you know that? ileus Oct 2015 #13

The Second Amendment does not give anyone any rights OakCliffDem Oct 2015 #6

ugh randys1 Oct 2015 #8

I agree Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #19

If being on the side of life is wrong, I will be wrong I guess randys1 Oct 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Straw Man Oct 2015 #26

Don't flatter yourself. Straw Man Oct 2015 #27

The Bill of Rights TeddyR Oct 2015 #7

Proof that gun enthusiasts are not really rational overall is their immediate FEARful reaction randys1 Oct 2015 #9

what makes you think that? virginia mountainman Oct 2015 #10

Proof that gun controllers are not really rational is their fear of an inanimate object Lurks Often Oct 2015 #11

You have a thing about fear, as if it were a sin in its own right... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #31

As a white, str8t male, in America, the fears minorities and Gays have, I dont have to worry about randys1 Oct 2015 #34

So in essence sarisataka Oct 2015 #17

I have figured this out after last week's shooting. upaloopa Oct 2015 #2

Profit is one hell of a motivation. randys1 Oct 2015 #5

And many, not all, who hate guns, are generally unmotivated people to begin with. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #24

Don't hold your breath for an answer on that one DonP Oct 2015 #33

So what are YOU doing to achieve your goal? Lurks Often Oct 2015 #12

Not interested in what you have to say upaloopa Oct 2015 #14

Too bad that this is a discussion board Lurks Often Oct 2015 #15

Much easier to whine online than actually do anything in the real world. DonP Oct 2015 #16

They are never there when it matters Lurks Often Oct 2015 #18

Same thing here at some Zoning board meetings DonP Oct 2015 #22

MDA: Arrogant and condescending Lurks Often Oct 2015 #28

That's if they even show up DonP Oct 2015 #30

And the gun controllers silence on inner city violence is disgusting Lurks Often Oct 2015 #32

"Gun controllers take to their keyboards, gun rights activists go to the ballot box" friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #23

thank you, well and accuratelyy said DonP Oct 2015 #25

If you want to ban guns there is already a way to do that by changing the 2nd Amendment. Waldorf Oct 2015 #21

The only "mobilizing force" is MSM when it comes to gun-control/bans... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #29