Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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42. Have some TLAs:

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 07:13 PM

Oct 2015

ATF (alcohol, tobacco and firearms) says bazookas, tanks... are called>>>
DDs (for Destructive Devices) unless rendered inert and incapable of being fired.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-guide-identification-firearms-section-11

Certain things like cane guns, pens guns... are classed as>>>
AOWs (for any other weapon).
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-guides-importation-verification-firearms-national-firearms-act-definitions-any

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I've asked this question many times of those who would ban all guns; I never get an answer... [View all] cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 OP

The decision to ban guns has never Gman Oct 2015 #1

Ban guns and guns will come across the border. It's not rocket science. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #5

Guns crossing the border would be a good example Gman Oct 2015 #6

Wait a minute. Australia being surrounded by water . . . brush Oct 2015 #21

yes, but did it end mass murders? gejohnston Oct 2015 #24

It greatly reduced the frequency of mass killings brush Oct 2015 #26

post hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston Oct 2015 #27

Stop with all the word salad. Just say you want no gun control. brush Oct 2015 #28

just pointing out your logical fallacy gejohnston Oct 2015 #30

How's this? brush Oct 2015 #32

no. gejohnston Oct 2015 #33

Stop saying no and offer solutions brush Oct 2015 #34

see my edit gejohnston Oct 2015 #35

What is all this? brush Oct 2015 #36

copied and pasted from my list gejohnston Oct 2015 #37

I see there's less there than meets the eye. brush Oct 2015 #38

Frankly, *you're* the one dealing from a position of weakness. Why should we help you? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #45

So statue quo then? Mass shooting multiple time a month? brush Oct 2015 #47

You propose, in essence, to fight drunk driving by universally restricting cars... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #49

If you're still wondering *why* we don't simply agree to your proposals, look at *this* thread: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #50

So you have nothing to offer either — just content with mass shootings multiple time a month brush Oct 2015 #51

A strawman claim, as I am in no way content with the number of multiple shootings we see friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #53

Yeah sure, but you still offer no solutions yourself brush Oct 2015 #55

It always amuses me that prohibitionists expect those they demonize to help them friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #44

To quote longtime DUer Eleanors38: Don't expect us to carry *your* slop bucket friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #43

What the hell are you talking about? brush Oct 2015 #46

I repeat: You are in a position of political weakness. Why should *we* help you? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #48

Even then, gejohnston Oct 2015 #23

I don't support "banning all guns", jmg257 Oct 2015 #2

Like drinking and driving, those penalties are really stopping all the drunks from driving? virginia mountainman Oct 2015 #4

if it stopped the drunk that might have killed you that would be good, correct? nt msongs Oct 2015 #7

The world doesn't work by all or nothing, light switch thinking Warpy Oct 2015 #3

Strict gun regulations in Mexico. Is that why the death rate by gun violence is 11.17 to our 10.64 cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #9

The guns pouring over the border from the US is responsible. Warpy Oct 2015 #22

guns are the most regulated consumer product in the US gejohnston Oct 2015 #25

Drugs come across - guns will, too. 840high Oct 2015 #8

Guns will be worth so much money that the drug traffic will be supplanted by the gun traffic. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #11

I noticed. 840high Oct 2015 #14

Thank you very much! cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #15

It's all based on feel good emotions. ileus Oct 2015 #10

A better question for you wilt the stilt Oct 2015 #12

If you didn't have jack shit to add to the conversation... couldn't you have just said so? cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #13

Are you sure sarisataka Oct 2015 #19

You -can- own a bazooka. n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #20

Yes, we can.. virginia mountainman Oct 2015 #29

Ummm, you can own a bazooka, GGJohn Oct 2015 #41

Have some TLAs: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #42

I never got an answer to that question either. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #16

Not only that, but the question always seems to make people mad. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #17

Maybe because there is no answer to the inevitable darkangel218 Oct 2015 #18

This is a deeply flawed argument. procon Oct 2015 #31

"Do something." Like stand-up. Prohibition is America's most addictive social policy. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #39

No, you just don't understand it. Straw Man Oct 2015 #65

The debate has never been about "gun owners do no harm with their firearms". procon Oct 2015 #67

Whoa, there ... Straw Man Oct 2015 #68

The answer is simple, you do not. oneshooter Oct 2015 #40

When the conversation starts with a rightwing talking point like this randys1 Oct 2015 #52

How would *you* prevent gun smuggling, were guns to be banned in the US? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #54

So do you have anything useful to contribute that has a chance of passing? Lurks Often Oct 2015 #56

Rightwing framed conversations arent any fun. randys1 Oct 2015 #57

That is what I thought, you have nothing Lurks Often Oct 2015 #58

Well, to be fair, I have the 2nd amendment randys1 Oct 2015 #59

You keep thinking that Lurks Often Oct 2015 #60

Gun control at a minimum is required in a rational society...control implying their randys1 Oct 2015 #61

Which is your opinion and worth very little at that Lurks Often Oct 2015 #62

So all the societies where guns are controlled, all of those people are just dumb I guess randys1 Oct 2015 #63

It's dumb to think that the U.S. is the same as other countries Lurks Often Oct 2015 #64

Automatics made after 1986 are banned. Kaleva Oct 2015 #66