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Gun Control & RKBA

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jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
12. POC
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:29 PM
Sep 2015

Jonno: "Most early gun "control" laws were created for the explicit purpose of keeping firearms out of the hands of POC.

There were certainly state laws hindering black ownership of guns (poc = people of color).
But please point out which federal law done did that:

wiki: The Sullivan Act is a gun control law in New York State that took effect in 1911. ..the Sullivan Act required licenses for New Yorkers to possess firearms small enough to be concealed... For handguns, the Sullivan Act qualifies as a may issue act, meaning the local police have discretion to issue a concealed carry license .. (in 19th century, southern states also placed restrictions on gun-ownership for certain "undesirable" whites .. chiefly Italians--in the first three years of the Sullivan Laws, roughly 70% of those arrested had Italian surnames).

.. impetus for National Firearms Act {NFA} of 1934 was the gangland crime of the Prohibition era, such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre of 1929, and the attempted assassination of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933. Like the current National Firearms Act (NFA), the 1934 Act required NFA firearms to be registered and taxed. The $200 tax was quite prohibitive at the time (equivalent to $3,526 in 2015). NFA weapons were machine guns, short-barreled rifles (SBR), short-barreled shotguns (SBS), any other weapons (AOW or concealable weapons other than pistols or revolvers)..

Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA or GCA68) is a federal law that regulates the firearms industry and firearms owners. It primarily focuses on regulating interstate commerce in firearms by generally prohibiting interstate firearms transfers except among licensed manufacturers, dealers and importers.
The GCA1968 was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson on Oct 1968.


The very Lyndon Johnson who signed the civil rights act of 1964 to protect black americans, wanted to proscribe guns? dunno. you tell me.

jonno: The KKK loved gun control laws that left gave law enforcement the power over who could own a gun..."

KKK loved that aspect for sure, but they would'nt've loved gun control laws for limiting THEIR gun ownership ability, for mention of god & guns goes hand in hand in their motto.

jonno: It's very simple, it is not the LAWFUL citizens about whom we need to concentrate our control efforts.

No it's not that simple at all.

District of Columbia [View all] TeddyR Sep 2015 OP
Most early gun "control" laws were created for the explicit purpose of jonno99 Sep 2015 #1
I am all for ONLY Black people having guns. randys1 Sep 2015 #26
That's an explicitly racist statement. Got any other racially based qualifications in mind? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #39
wow just plain wow. clffrdjk Sep 2015 #43
That's an odd statement to make, why is it you only care about the safety and security ileus Sep 2015 #48
"Draconian and unconstitutional"? Sounds like common sense to me. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #2
The constitutional right to keep arms is not unlimited SecularMotion Sep 2015 #3
Your problems are not legal ones hack89 Sep 2015 #5
Which does not mean that any regulation is constitutional. krispos42 Sep 2015 #32
In the real world more guns did not equal more violence hack89 Sep 2015 #4
gun ownership rates declined 1993 - ~2012 jimmy the one Sep 2015 #7
So what is all the fuss about? hack89 Sep 2015 #18
political rulings abound jimmy the one Sep 2015 #6
Excellent points. eom guillaumeb Sep 2015 #11
It seems that somehow you neglected to mention the fact Big_Mike Sep 2015 #46
Selective acceptance of Supreme Court decisions: Not just for county clerks in Kentucky! friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #47
Obviously, Judge Millet is not a real and true Democrat! branford Sep 2015 #55
"What is unreasonable about registering..." Question: should the police stop jonno99 Sep 2015 #8
The problem with your quite reasonable statement, is that criminals do not always announce guillaumeb Sep 2015 #10
"criminals do not always announce themselves." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #14
And do all gun sellers register their sales? guillaumeb Sep 2015 #17
So implement UBCs hack89 Sep 2015 #19
And what is the NRA position on background checks? eom guillaumeb Sep 2015 #21
Beats the shit out of me. hack89 Sep 2015 #22
I looked it up. NRA is opposed. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #24
So? 17 states passed UBCs hack89 Sep 2015 #25
One could be left with the impression -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #28
Why does the NRA (and most other gun rights groups) oppose a national gun registry? branford Sep 2015 #30
The problems you may be encountering: Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #41
Do you understand that a criminal cannot be prosecuted for Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #27
A couple of thoughts: jonno99 Sep 2015 #15
Some agreement, and some qualification. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #20
I think it is important to understand the language of "feeling". jonno99 Sep 2015 #29
30,000 gun deaths a year is the equivalent of a Sept 11 every month. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #33
64 percent of which gejohnston Sep 2015 #36
The utopia you seek is not acheivable - not while they are some who are intent on jonno99 Sep 2015 #38
You've just inadvertently gave a resounding defense of policies such as "stop and frisk" branford Sep 2015 #23
Canada repealed the requirement to register almost all long guns. Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #31
It was a partial repeal: guillaumeb Sep 2015 #34
Why don't you persuade us of the wisdom, necessity and constitutionality branford Sep 2015 #35
Money, and fear, talk in US politics. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #42
so not a single comment on how you would make your version better than Canada's failure? clffrdjk Sep 2015 #44
I did not say better, I said the same type of legislation. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #49
The actual polling doesn't appear to support your claims for "reasonable" gun control, branford Sep 2015 #45
What is your source for your claim guillaumeb Sep 2015 #50
Time for a vision check discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #51
Approximately 80 - 100 million, not billion. branford Sep 2015 #54
Billion was a mis-type. I blame the computer of course. eom guillaumeb Sep 2015 #57
you post disinformation #2 jimmy the one Sep 2015 #53
Nope. Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #37
POC jimmy the one Sep 2015 #12
"No it's not that simple at all." On this you are exactly correct. However, there jonno99 Sep 2015 #16
many roots from a root ball jimmy the one Sep 2015 #40
Until they added the little test, I actually thought reasonable yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #52
was the test concerning gun regulations? guillaumeb Sep 2015 #56
Yes. I still don't like it. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #58
Would you say the same thing about driving tests? guillaumeb Sep 2015 #59
Well constitutionally you don't have a right to drive yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #60
D.C.'s laws resonate with past Jim (large, raucous black bird) laws in the ol' South. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #9
JFK said... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #13
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