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In reply to the discussion: The new anti-gun-control meme: The US should be more like Switzerland. [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)39. Negative ghost rider.
You want to rehash already gone over failures on your part? fine with me:
Its not a failure, its a fact.
The bill of rights was both a restriction on congress & a guarantee of individual rights (in 2nA case, the right to belong to a well regulated militia, right as a duty)
First, I'm not talking about what someone after the fact 'says' it is, like you are.
I'm talking about what it actually is, in terms of how it functions, and the framers themselves make quite clear what it is and how it functions:
THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution
Second, you're wrong. Amendment 1 explicitly restricts only congress, the other amendments were written with a much broader scope.
Third, you're wrong again, in that the restriction on government contained in amendment 2, explicitly protects from governmental interference, the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
You have no business talking about the failures of others, james, until you get your own house in order.
As I said, the 'militia' arguments are a red herring. Always have been, and always will be.
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The new anti-gun-control meme: The US should be more like Switzerland. [View all]
DetlefK
Sep 2015
OP
I admire your ability to converse with these folks. I guess someone has to do it.
randys1
Sep 2015
#26
"Gun Culture:" A patchwork of sociological & psychological terms meant to disparage...
Eleanors38
Sep 2015
#10
You fixate on the metal and plastic, his post focuses on the people intent on committing crime.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#17
"The biggest difference between the US and Switzerland? How they think about guns:"
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#20
Uhhhh...in the 18c. the government didn't control militias the way you suggest.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#23
Okay. Females who are members of the National Guard are the only ones eligible for the
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#36
"The sleeping masses" are not a federal statue James; the unorganized militia is.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#38