Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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84. Wrong as usual, Jimbo.

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 05:13 PM

Sep 2015

Today’s tricked out AR-15s also appeal to gun enthusiasts who want to use what the professional use. ARs are the rifle of choice for special operations units, police SWAT teams, competitive shooters; that elite caché has influence on what guns are bought by the general public.

Says it in a nutshell; aside from target shooting's minimal involvement (imo) most all ar15 rifle owners want to own military style rifles without having to ever serve a single day in the military or well reg'd militia. Some kind of elan', status symbol for upper class white men, like owning a porsche.

"Minimal involvement "? On what do you base that assumption, Jimmy? I belong to an average, run-of-the-mill middle-class gun club. I personally know more than a dozen people who own ARs, but no one that owns a Porsche; not even a Mercedes. Entry-level ARs run around $600, Jimmy. Where do get this stuff?

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Went to an organizational meeting for a new chapter of MDA today. [View all] flamin lib Sep 2015 OP

because Bloomberg wants prohibition gejohnston Sep 2015 #1

Ya' know I didn't meet a single one of your moles there. flamin lib Sep 2015 #2

read the edit gejohnston Sep 2015 #3

You didn't challenge or refute a single point that he made. krispos42 Sep 2015 #4

I should know better and nothing I say here will make the slightest dent in the flamin lib Sep 2015 #6

Thank you. krispos42 Sep 2015 #43

The Lanza commentary alluded to the fact that mass shootings, while spectacular, are a small portion flamin lib Sep 2015 #47

So where do they stand on banning "assault weapons" and normal-capacity magazines? benEzra Sep 2015 #44

Aha, found it. One of the first (or perhaps THE first) ad campaign MDA ever did... benEzra Sep 2015 #48

Yes, an assault weapons ban is one of the items on their long term agenda and I don't care. flamin lib Sep 2015 #49

If that is true Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #51

You win this argument, I'll support you in the quest to ban pistols. nt flamin lib Sep 2015 #53

Nice try as I do not call for that Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #54

AWB is a waste of time. Extended magazines not so much. nt flamin lib Sep 2015 #56

In your own post today (#49), branford Sep 2015 #57

Awww shit, I get so Goddamn tired of this crap. MDA has a long term goal of an AWB and I don't care flamin lib Sep 2015 #58

If you start a thread about your involvement in a particular group branford Sep 2015 #59

truly amazing Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #61

... oneshooter Sep 2015 #60

"I should not have come here." pablo_marmol Sep 2015 #62

While I may not agree with all of Flamin Lib's positions on firearms, branford Sep 2015 #66

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #68

Bravo!! Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #69

Of course you don't care! pablo_marmol Sep 2015 #64

Then don't pretend it's about "saving lives", since rifles are the least misused of all weapons. benEzra Sep 2015 #67

Is bloomberg giving away triggar locks? Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #5

I'm talking outreach here. Going to the schools and PTA meetings to educate flamin lib Sep 2015 #7

Did you educate on project childsafe? Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #13

This was an organizational meeting so nothing was "educated on". flamin lib Sep 2015 #15

I do not hate Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #16

Really? Coulda' fooled me. The rhetoric seems to indicate a heated flamin lib Sep 2015 #18

Sorry but let me get my hip waders Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #19

I guess the answer is 'no'. nt flamin lib Sep 2015 #21

You have seen many of my posts Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #23

Yes, I've seen many of your posts. flamin lib Sep 2015 #25

He is skeptical of a group that has worked against Dems, hides their prohibitionism... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #17

Thank you Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #20

I agree with you. Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #93

Thanks, now I know where I went wrong... Human101948 Sep 2015 #8

Well there is besmartforkids.org/ sarisataka Sep 2015 #12

I doubt it Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #14

MDA wants "gun safety," branford Sep 2015 #9

We need to fight back, no is not the time to abandon our progressive 2A stance. ileus Sep 2015 #10

Good for you! sarisataka Sep 2015 #11

Speaking of meetings at schools.. virginia mountainman Sep 2015 #22

Does not surpise me, I am sure the OP Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #24

I strongly approve of the focus on gun security. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2015 #26

+1 DashOneBravo Sep 2015 #27

Straw purchase is almost impossible to prove. In one case from Kansas a felon flamin lib Sep 2015 #29

Most of those MDA people sound like Kang Colby Sep 2015 #28

Why would you doubt that an organization dedicated to reducing gun violence flamin lib Sep 2015 #30

How many gun locks have Everytown, MDA, MAIG distributed since they started? DonP Sep 2015 #31

Because it has happened before. Straw Man Sep 2015 #32

Did you read the VPC piece? flamin lib Sep 2015 #33

You've essentially admitted that "gun safety" is indeed not the priority, branford Sep 2015 #34

No, I did not. nt flamin lib Sep 2015 #36

I beg to differ, particularly when the focus is on preventing people from liking guns. branford Sep 2015 #39

Beg all ya' want. nt flamin lib Sep 2015 #50

Simple! repeal 2ndA, invoke martial law! jimmy the one Sep 2015 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #71

Words have meaning, particularly in a legal context. branford Sep 2015 #72

It is the really mean people like this ^^^^ that causes him to not want to post here. oneshooter Sep 2015 #74

Heres a 'Jimmy' that actually has something relevent to say. beevul Sep 2015 #75

memory lane jimmy the one Sep 2015 #78

need read more than cliff notes jimmy the one Sep 2015 #76

One of the problems with near-Trumpian levels of self regard, James... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #79

prove ar15s in common use jimmy the one Sep 2015 #83

You made the original assertion, you prove it. And your opinion of their suitability is irrelevant friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #86

BTW: Repetition + prolixity =/= veracity friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #88

iconic hocus pocus jimmy the one Sep 2015 #89

Oy ... Straw Man Sep 2015 #90

When there's a moral panic to be touted, incovenient facts get ignored friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #92

"AR15s are NOT in common use." Oh, bullshit. They are a commonly used *firearm* friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #91

Popularity. Straw Man Sep 2015 #80

Some posters apparently believe that having a DU account is equivalent to... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #81

thanks for the support jimmy the one Sep 2015 #82

Wrong as usual, Jimbo. Straw Man Sep 2015 #84

I shoot HighPower here in the Houston area. oneshooter Sep 2015 #85

The solipsist regards only their own view and viewpoint as valid friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #87

Nope. benEzra Sep 2015 #94

Well... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #95

false premise after false premis (4) jimmy the one Sep 2015 #77

And what percentage of that 55% stems from... benEzra Sep 2015 #96

peculiar ar15 jimmy the one Sep 2015 #97

A centerfire .22 that fires once and only once when the trigger is pulled. benEzra Sep 2015 #98

Is there a refutation of branford's post in there somewhere? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #73

You've obviously never seen the Eddie Eagle program if you believe that DonP Sep 2015 #35

"Perhaps you can share some of the child safety materials distributed by Brady or MDA" Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #42

So what is the non-indoctinational gun safety program sarisataka Sep 2015 #37

Thank you for pointing out, unintentionally, why... beevul Sep 2015 #38

Yes, both now and when it first appeared. Straw Man Sep 2015 #40

"Did you read the VPC piece?" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #45

Priceless comment in the same thead but in the other group. beevul Sep 2015 #41

And they wonder why the can't make any progress toward "gun control". pablo_marmol Sep 2015 #65

This is a thread on gun safety training. Hangingon Sep 2015 #46

It was unlocked, fyi Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #52

What is "support reasonable limits on where loaded guns can be carried"? Statistical Sep 2015 #55

Thanks, but no thanks to your invitation to "join us". NT pablo_marmol Sep 2015 #63