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In reply to the discussion: Went to an organizational meeting for a new chapter of MDA today. [View all]branford
(4,462 posts)57. In your own post today (#49),
you suggested that an AR-15 bad would save lives, yet now an "AWB is a waste of time."
Yes, an assault weapons ban is one of the items on their long term agenda and I don't care. So there. If AR 15s are sooooo precious to you don't contribute. If, on the other hand saving lives makes a difference to you . . .
It appears that you would willingly accept or ignore the banning or effective confiscation of many millions of the most popular rile in the country (no less all other "assault weapons" , when all rifles represent a minuscule fraction of firearm crime and accidents (and the last "assault weapons ban" proved totally ineffective according to the Obama Justice Department), from tens of millions of law-abiding gun owners, or at the very least openly and actively support a group that advocates such a position, apparently as an unavailable or ancillary part of your purported quest for "gun safety.
Again, the MDA is a "gun safety" organization like the Catholic Church promotes "safe premarital sex" through abstinence-only education. If you advocate gun safety as a member of MDA you will, quite rightly and unsurprisingly, be treated as a strict gun control supporter, no matter your claims to the contrary.
You also allude to gun rights supporters' opposition to the "simplest" solutions to firearm problems in the country.
Fixing that problem can be done but opposition to even the simplest proposals is, at this point, impossible to overcome as evidenced by the other responses to this post.
"Simple" proposals are like "common sense" solutions. The terms are entirely subjective and meaningless. A "simple" solution could be the repeal of the Second Amendment, outlawing all firearms, and declaring martial law.
What "simple" solutions have MDA actively proposed to further "gun safety" that don't include the banning of firearms and accessories that could have actually stopped recent mass shootings or far more prevalent street crime, and have other more moderate groups made similar proposals without the prior politically-toxic baggage of gun ban proposals.
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I should know better and nothing I say here will make the slightest dent in the
flamin lib
Sep 2015
#6
The Lanza commentary alluded to the fact that mass shootings, while spectacular, are a small portion
flamin lib
Sep 2015
#47
So where do they stand on banning "assault weapons" and normal-capacity magazines?
benEzra
Sep 2015
#44
Aha, found it. One of the first (or perhaps THE first) ad campaign MDA ever did...
benEzra
Sep 2015
#48
Yes, an assault weapons ban is one of the items on their long term agenda and I don't care.
flamin lib
Sep 2015
#49
Awww shit, I get so Goddamn tired of this crap. MDA has a long term goal of an AWB and I don't care
flamin lib
Sep 2015
#58
Then don't pretend it's about "saving lives", since rifles are the least misused of all weapons.
benEzra
Sep 2015
#67
He is skeptical of a group that has worked against Dems, hides their prohibitionism...
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#17
Straw purchase is almost impossible to prove. In one case from Kansas a felon
flamin lib
Sep 2015
#29
I beg to differ, particularly when the focus is on preventing people from liking guns.
branford
Sep 2015
#39
It is the really mean people like this ^^^^ that causes him to not want to post here.
oneshooter
Sep 2015
#74
One of the problems with near-Trumpian levels of self regard, James...
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#79
You made the original assertion, you prove it. And your opinion of their suitability is irrelevant
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#86
When there's a moral panic to be touted, incovenient facts get ignored
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#92
"AR15s are NOT in common use." Oh, bullshit. They are a commonly used *firearm*
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#91
Some posters apparently believe that having a DU account is equivalent to...
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#81
"Perhaps you can share some of the child safety materials distributed by Brady or MDA"
Duckhunter935
Sep 2015
#42