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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
20. Your facts are refuted. You are in error.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:08 PM
Aug 2015

Year 2013 manufacturing figures, per the ATF:
Semiautomatic handguns: 4,441,726
Revolvers: 725,282
Shotguns: 1,203,072
Rifles: 3,979,570
Other: 495,142
Total: 10,844,792
Imported: 3,625,268
Exported: 393,121
Net total: 14,862,657


Year 2007 manufacturing figures, per the ATF:
Semiautomatic handguns: 1,219,664
Revolvers: 391,334
Shotguns: 645,231
Rifles: 1,610,923
Other: 55,461
Total: 3,922,613
Imported: 2,743,993
Exported: 204,782
Net total: 6,461,824

Try the BATFE's "2015 Report on Firearms Commerce in the U.S."

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/data-statistics

Don't you ever question ANYTHING put out by the people in your echo chamber?

Spend some time with the 2015 report. It has pretty graphs and stuff to help you understand that your source you're quoting is, apparently, living in an abstract world where they must be right so the data is wrong.

Maybe you'll even feel compelled to self-delete this OP.

Guns, sales and core principles [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2015 OP
Awe, Secmo, you know facts and stuff won't affect this audience. flamin lib Aug 2015 #1
If gun ownership is declining even as laws become more liberal why are Controllers Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #3
Exactly sarisataka Aug 2015 #4
What an absolutely heinous cartoon and yet how many Controllers, were the lines to ever be drawn, Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #5
They don't like drones. Till they come our way. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #10
While it's not like murder sarisataka Aug 2015 #11
uh, it was a cartoon jimmy the one Aug 2015 #17
Who is this us? sarisataka Aug 2015 #19
silly & specious jimmy the one Sep 2015 #50
Would your argument go better with vinaigrette or a light ranch dressing? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #53
Didn't you swear never to post here again? oneshooter Aug 2015 #7
Must be the luridness of the pretty pictures of gunz, or the coming of Labor Day and Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #9
Its a confirmation of what we knew from day 1. beevul Aug 2015 #15
Pretty much sums it up. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #16
Their state of denial is noteworthy as well DonP Aug 2015 #18
Did you see the triple down in ATA Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #27
Yup, now Jimmy the Zero is doing the same thing DonP Aug 2015 #32
Is that the one I can not see yet in ATA? Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #33
Yeah, he made a big deal about "how horrible and right wing" another regular poster is ... DonP Aug 2015 #34
Linkly? N/T beevul Aug 2015 #38
It's in that year old thread you re-opened About 2/3 down DonP Aug 2015 #40
Found it... beevul Aug 2015 #41
I came up with the "helpful" suggestion that he should go to ATA: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #42
He has company. N/T beevul Aug 2015 #43
We've had a few situations like this before DonP Sep 2015 #48
Saw Skinners response to you DonP Sep 2015 #49
Make that quadruple down sarisataka Aug 2015 #37
Love that one Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #46
Bloggers should check the news sarisataka Aug 2015 #2
Sure! Kang Colby Aug 2015 #6
Brup! Nothing nue. Trashing. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #8
As I've covered about 50% of the firearms I need, my buying habits have moved to fishing equipment. ileus Aug 2015 #12
This whole article is full of shit. GGJohn Aug 2015 #13
Not interested n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #14
Your facts are refuted. You are in error. krispos42 Aug 2015 #20
Manufacturing figures do not equal sales SecularMotion Aug 2015 #21
Keep grasping at those straws fella. pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #22
Really? krispos42 Aug 2015 #23
This is why The Controllers constantly get whipped, and can never hope to win: pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #24
Manufacturing is a business like any other krispos42 Aug 2015 #28
Hey, Hostess went under but Twinkies survived DonP Aug 2015 #35
"Not every NICS check is a sale" pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #26
Why don't you two get a room? SecularMotion Aug 2015 #29
Be careful what you wish for. beevul Aug 2015 #31
Like your source did? krispos42 Sep 2015 #44
That does not translate to direct sales to individual gun owners. SecularMotion Sep 2015 #45
So if there are no sales figures, how does your source know they're declining? krispos42 Sep 2015 #47
In Colt's case, they have been struggling for years gejohnston Aug 2015 #25
Not the first manufacturer to focus just on the "BIG Accounts" DonP Aug 2015 #36
They went from 6 million to 14 million guns? Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #30
Like those manufacturers are just going to sit on the sunk cost of those guns...Not! friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #39
Lock every single one of the over THREE HUNDRED MILLION (dear god are we insane?) guns in randys1 Sep 2015 #51
it doesn't require a militia gejohnston Sep 2015 #52
When will you be around to collect? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #54
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