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In reply to the discussion: What would be the most efficient means of keeping guns away from criminals? [View all]Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)72. "a society and not living in fear of each other."
It seems to be the Controllers who live in fear of 80+ million people who would never do them harm yet demand people with guns invade the lives of those 80+ million.
Calling carrying a gun a "fundamental right" is exactly what a right wing fundamentalist would call it.
Argumentum ad hominem
Conservatives call the NSA wiretaps a 4A violation; that doesn't diminish the fact the 4A was violated or invalidate the right to not have the government spy without probable cause.
The rest of the world calls it stupid.
Argumentum ad populum
Nuclear Unicorn calls the rest of the world stupid so I win because I'm me.
Do you think the rest of us are stupid, or that we live in a repressive society? Is that what you think?
Add in "timid" and "not morally fit to lecture others" and you're getting warmer.
You keep plugging (projecting) your nonsense about gun owners being "scared." When you Europeans went on your imperialist binges you disarmed your subject populations. Every. Single. Time.
That's how much I care what the rest of the world thinks.
You tried it here in the US as well and the resulting battle of Lexington and Concord is the reason why there is a 2A in the first place. You were run-out because you were abusive authoritarians who could not be trusted with uncontested power.
You think we're silly? Behold your good work.
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What would be the most efficient means of keeping guns away from criminals? [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
OP
The most efficient way would be to make gun possession in public illegal
Starboard Tack
Aug 2015
#10
Why not just aggravate the sentence of any crime committed with a gun? People who aren't
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#11
"it could be argued that convicted felons who carry guns responsibly are not criminals"
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#14
So the right to defend oneself with a gun excludes millions of Americans
Starboard Tack
Aug 2015
#20
First you grouse that law-aiding people are carrying. Now you're grousing convicted criminals aren't
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#21
I claim no such thing. They exist and, if they carry, they may be scared too.
Starboard Tack
Aug 2015
#59
There's also fires, personal injuries, natural disasters, etc. but I doubt you
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#120
No, but I'd think someone carrying a fire extinguisher around may have a problem
Starboard Tack
Sep 2015
#122
I think it's safe to say you have pretty well nicked the scourge of women carrying
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#138
Because 'judge' is the the root of 'prejudiced'- and you *are* prejudiced
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#121
"Windows has been updated about 9 times in 20 years and it is still far from perfect."
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#70
"Do you think the rest of us are stupid, or that we live in a repressive society?"
beevul
Aug 2015
#73
Your interlocutor seems to have suddenly lost interest in your conversation
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2015
#80
Yes, you proved we prefer reliability over phobia driven fantasies. Golly but you're clever.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#55
"there are no stats to show that people sometimes get killed with their own guns"
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#58
You can give up if you wish but if you're certain RFID devices are so awesome
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#88
OMG I am so glad I don't live in a world where those questions need to be asked
Starboard Tack
Aug 2015
#89
There's no violent crime in your world or do the police always arrive in time?
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#90
"(W)e will just continue down the path we have been on for decades..." Lower crime rates?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2015
#45
That's what I was thinking --- but my answer would be "D" to that question. (other)
pablo_marmol
Aug 2015
#40
"Not easy in a country where half the population still lives in the 19th century."
pablo_marmol
Aug 2015
#103
Both A and B, with mandatory open carry it caring it in public. The Reason.
LiberalArkie
Sep 2015
#132