Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Who are the Militia? [View all]jimmy the one
(2,776 posts)virginia, circa 1776: That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state;
Note how virginia refers to 'the people' as free white male adults, excluding about 75% of other americans (women children aged, slaves). Not 'everaboddy' in america, as could pertain to other amendments in the bill of rights.
dwc/tench coxe, 1788: Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? It is feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." --Tench Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, 1788
Was there some kind of hidden individual rkba subtlety implied here? pls explain what you're driving at.
.. tench coxe is not speaking of an individual rkba disconnected from militia service, as scalia & robts scotus ruled, he's obviously in militia mode, & note again how he limits 'the people' as being free white adult males which comprised about 25% of the people. And as woven gems pointed out, there's no well regulated citizens militia any longer, just crackpot militias, like 'Big Bob's Militia' down the street, anytown america.
.. Tench, by the way, was known as 'mr both sides' or something like that, in the revolutionary war, since he fought for the british & succored them & profited from british trade during the revwar, then later switched to the american cause, enlisted militia iirc.
Tench: The unlimited power of the sword..
Homer - "The blade itself incites to deeds of violence."
Even the greeks & romans knew what gunfolk deny; Somebody didn't tell homer it wasn't the 'blade', but the peoples, eh?