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wnylib

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41. There is Native American ancestry in my family, too.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 05:43 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Tue Oct 13, 2020, 07:11 PM - Edit history (1)

It's recent enough that physical traits were very noticeable in my father's generation and in his mother. Her ancestry was English (colonial Puritan descent) and Seneca, plus some Mohawk. We know the time period was the early 1800's for the mixed marriage, but by the early 1800's, many Senecas and Mohawks were using European names, so we can't learn much by the names alone, especially since they include such common ones as Williams and Johnson. Plus there are a few gaps in the names we have from that time period.

My father's father also had some Native ancestry mixed with German, but farther back than my grandmother's.

My grandparents had 9 children. Their appearance varied according to which sets of genes they inherited. One of my aunts looked "pure" European, with light brown hair, very fair skin, and blue eyes. Another aunt looked like she had no European ancestry at all. She had straight black hair, dark black/brown eyes, and medium brown (not beige) skin. My father and one brother had black hair, blue eyes, and medium beige skin. The rest had black hair, very dark brown eyes, and medium to dark beige skin. They also had other features associated with Native ancestry.

Yet, my cousin had a DNA test from Ancestry a few years ago. It showed zero Native ancestry, just British and German. Tests are more thorough now, especially from other companies, on tracing autosomal DNA. Y or mtDNA would miss Native ancestry if there is not an unbroken gender link to the Native ancestor.

The cousins most likely to still carry some autosomal traces of Native ancestry, based on the features of their parent, do not want to do the test.

I bet she's happy to have more roots now! Karadeniz Oct 2020 #1
No surprises with my own DNA matches The Genealogist Oct 2020 #2
i got in touch w my mom's brother's daughter. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #5
That is a LOT of new relatives to learn about The Genealogist Oct 2020 #11
yeah. my dad was a traveling salesman. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #12
That's exciting! I hope you can help her discover her unknown family MaryMagdaline Oct 2020 #3
i will sure see what i can do. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #6
My husband had something similar happen to him. mommymarine2003 Oct 2020 #4
well, i have to assume that is why the lady did the dna thing. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #7
A friend of mine that has since passed away did the DNA test. He discovered he fathered a doc03 Oct 2020 #8
aint science grand? ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #10
He was so happy about meeting her, he was very ill at the time and doc03 Oct 2020 #13
funny story. when i first did 23/me ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #9
also had a nice chat w a second cousin who still lives in offaly county. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #14
In trying to locate my fourth great grandfather's lineage csziggy Oct 2020 #15
well that's a great euphemism! interesting stuff this science. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #16
Family history is very interesting csziggy Oct 2020 #23
well, that english ggrandma doesnt seem to have left much of a trace. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #24
My only Irish ancestors were Protestants probably brought in by the English csziggy Oct 2020 #25
hmmm. well, no spanish, and the only african was sub saharan. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #26
Moorish is an old broad term, just as "Arab" or "Muslim" are today csziggy Oct 2020 #27
but no birth certs. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #28
Yeah, lots of families with no birth certificates csziggy Oct 2020 #31
i will check. there was a baby that died. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #32
RE: People of the British Isles wnylib Oct 2020 #37
Thank you for that detailed discussion! csziggy Oct 2020 #38
So true. There are no "pure" ethnicities. wnylib Oct 2020 #39
Learning the history and stories of my ancestors was what got me hooked on geneaology csziggy Oct 2020 #40
There is Native American ancestry in my family, too. wnylib Oct 2020 #41
We also have a mix of physical characteristics in the different families csziggy Oct 2020 #42
If your cousin is a direct line wnylib Oct 2020 #43
Yeah, my cousin showed no Native American DNA at all csziggy Oct 2020 #44
We know from craft items handed down wnylib Oct 2020 #45
The good news is that DNA results for Native Americans are more accurate now csziggy Oct 2020 #46
Goodness! Your family's history parallels mine. wnylib Oct 2020 #47
Yes, I agree. The only reason I'd like to know where I cam from is to understand csziggy Oct 2020 #48
My ancestors had a farm near wnylib Oct 2020 #49
Please help her customerserviceguy Oct 2020 #17
oh i am happy to. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #18
Good, I'm glad to hear that customerserviceguy Oct 2020 #19
well, you can just upload to the site. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #20
Great, that makes it easy customerserviceguy Oct 2020 #21
yeah. different goals. you want to narrow it down, and i want to expand. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #22
As an adoptee & advocate, I'm so very glad you're helping her... WePurrsevere Oct 2020 #29
i wonder, tho. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #30
The 'removed' thing myccrider Oct 2020 #34
Is through Ancestry.com? myccrider Oct 2020 #33
this was my heritage. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #35
Yeah, Ancestry has been getting bad, myccrider Oct 2020 #36
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