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Pro-Choice

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Freddie

(9,703 posts)
Sat May 11, 2019, 07:15 AM May 2019

This sums it up perfectly [View all]

Stolen from a comment on Quora by Sarah Geer. This is 100% spot-on.


...well for starters the real issue ISN’T whether a
fetus is a human life or not. The real issue is bodily autonomy rights.

Even if one were to pretend a nonviable, nonsentient fetus is a full person due rights under the law, the bodily autonomy issue remains: no person in our society is allowed to use the bodies or organs of other people unless they have that person’s EXPRESS POSITIVE CONSENT, not even to save their own lives.

A man on the transplant list cannot force another man to donate him a kidney, even if that second man is the only match and the first will die without it.

A doctor may not take blood or organs from a corpse without that person’s prior consent to posthumous organ donation, even to save the life of a dying child.

Thus a fetus cannot use a woman’s body and organs against her will and without her express consent. Contrary to popular claim by conservatives, sex is not consent to pregnancy (my consent for a man to have use of my vagina is NOT consent for a third party to take over my uterus and use my entire body for 40 weeks), and POSITIVE INFORMED consent is required for organ donation or use to begin with.

And the reason there is so much “hate” on this issue is because one side believes women are simply THINGS the moment they have sex; that they are nothing more than incubators who must risk their lives and health whether they want to or not in order to give birth. That they give up their rights to their bodies the instant they have sex.

The other side thinks women are actual people.

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This sums it up perfectly [View all] Freddie May 2019 OP
In many of the most anti-choice states (if not all states) BaileyBill May 2019 #1
another "reason there is so much "hate" on this issue" handmade34 May 2019 #2
I see it as 2naSalit May 2019 #8
link: CousinIT May 2019 #3
"Can not take blood or organs from a corpse without that person's consent" lostnfound May 2019 #4
I doubt that any of them are donors but I would bet they would all be takers if they needed it. nt GemDigger May 2019 #13
I thijnk for a lot of a certain type of men Sucha NastyWoman May 2019 #5
I would add 2naSalit May 2019 #9
I think it's about the ability to control a woman's body when a man is not around. amywalk May 2019 #19
THEY DO NOT CARE dvan May 2019 #6
like playing golf with trump? rampartc May 2019 #26
Personal views on abortion should remain personal sop May 2019 #7
Exactly Freddie May 2019 #11
i'm sorry your daughter had such a difficult time orleans May 2019 #23
It is worse than just the number of children... Moostache May 2019 #22
Pro-life is a myth. keithbvadu2 May 2019 #10
This is EXACTLY what I have been saying for decades. Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #18
I've been saying for years that if you don't believe in abortion then don't have one. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #12
I couldn't agree more Fresh_Start May 2019 #14
Best explanation I've ever read. BlancheSplanchnik May 2019 #15
Yup. I am either a human being or an incubator Freddie May 2019 #17
Yep. Plenty of sci-fi fantasies about that. BlancheSplanchnik May 2019 #28
OMG, I love the OP and the comments. Delmette2.0 May 2019 #16
That is an EXCELLENT point, BobTheSubgenius May 2019 #20
A co-worker said sex outside of marriage is wrong, and a pregnancy which results LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2019 #21
omg--who needs to hear shit like that at work! orleans May 2019 #24
He started the conversation out of thin air. "What do you think about abortion?" LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2019 #27
You rock. That's the best slam method ever! BlancheSplanchnik May 2019 #29
lol -- nice work! :) n/t orleans May 2019 #30
But men never get punished at all, right? Freddie May 2019 #25
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