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In reply to the discussion: think I might be a drunk [View all]NMDemDist2
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If, when you honestly want to, youfind you cannot quit entirely, or if when drinking, you
have little control over the amount you take, you are
probably alcoholic. If that be the case, you may be
suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experience will conquer.
To one who feels he is an atheist or agnostic such an
experience seems impossible, but to continue as he is
means disaster, especially if he is an alcoholic of the
hopeless variety. To be doomed to an alcoholic death
or to live on a spiritual basis are not always easy
alternatives to face.
But it isnt so difficult. About half our original
fellowship were of exactly that type. At first some of
us tried to avoid the issue, hoping against hope we
were not true alcoholics. But after a while we had to
face the fact that we must find a spiritual basis of life
or else. Perhaps it is going to be that way with you.
But cheer up, something like half of us thought we
were atheists or agnostics. Our experience shows that
you need not be disconcerted.
If a mere code of morals or a better philosophy of
life were sufficient to overcome alcoholism, many of us
would have recovered long ago. But we found that
such codes and philosophies did not save us, no matter
how much we tried. We could wish to be moral, we
could wish to be philosophically comforted, in fact,
we could will these things with all our might, but the
needed power wasnt there. Our human resources, as
marshalled by the will, were not sufficient; they failed
utterly.
Lack of power, that was our dilemma. We had to
find a power by which we could live, and it had to be
a Power greater than ourselves. Obviously. But where
and how were we to find this Power?
Well, thats exactly what this book is about. Its
main object is to enable you to find a Power greater
than yourself which will solve your problem. That
means we have written a book which we believe to
be spiritual as well as moral. And it means, of course,
that we are going to talk about God. Here difficulty
arises with agnostics. Many times we talk to a new
man and watch his hope rise as we discuss his alcoholic problems and explain our fellowship. But his face
falls when we speak of spiritual matters, especially
when we mention God, for we have re-opened a subject which our man thought he had neatly evaded or
entirely ignored.
We know how he feels. We have shared his honest
doubt and prejudice. Some of us have been violently
anti-religious. To others, the word God brought up
a particular idea of Him with which someone had tried
to impress them during childhood. Perhaps we rejected this particular conception because it seemed
inadequate. With that rejection we imagined we had
abandoned the God idea entirely. We were bothered
with the thought that faith and dependence upon a
Power beyond ourselves was somewhat weak, even
cowardly. We looked upon this world of warring
individuals, warring theological systems, and inexplicable calamity, with deep skepticism. We looked
askance at many individuals who claimed to be godly.
How could a Supreme Being have anything to do with
it all? And who could comprehend a Supreme Being
anyhow? Yet, in other moments, we found ourselves
thinking, when enchanted by a starlit night, Who,
then, made all this? There was a feeling of awe and
wonder, but it was fleeting and soon lost.
Yes, we of agnostic temperament have had these
thoughts and experiences. Let us make haste to reassure you. We found that as soon as we were able to
lay aside prejudice and express even a willingness to
believe in a Power greater than ourselves, we commenced to get results, even though it was impossible
for any of us to fully define or comprehend that
Power, which is God.
Much to our relief, we discovered we did not need
to consider anothers conception of God. Our own
conception, however inadequate, was sufficient to
make the approach and to effect a contact with Him.
As soon as we admitted the possible existence of a
Creative Intelligence, a Spirit of the Universe underlying the totality of things, we began to be possessed
of a new sense of power and direction, provided we
took other simple steps.
We take the steps, it works or it doesn't. How do you know before you try it out? When there's no other ideas left maybe you'll be willing to lay aside your fears and reach out.
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I had trouble with that too when I joined AA. The thing is a higher power can be anything.
applegrove
Feb 2013
#3
Sorry, I'd like to follow your rule, but AA and all the anonymous 12 step groups
tavalon
Jun 2013
#14