Spirituality vs the "God" idea.

[Stuart G]

13. I do not believe in this, and never have...

Your comment........


"I was just pointing out that, though a belief in a deity is not required, the steps, Tradition 2, and the literature proselytize about a specific kind of God - a prayer-answering favor-dispensing deity"
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my thoughts....

Maybe so, but I do not believe in this...havn't for many years, and don't, and won't...sometimes, there are circumstances that look like
there might be, but that doesn't mean there is...

That is the truth.
People helping people is not new. That strength and goodness of people helping people .... is what I believe in.
There is a peace and serenity in the rooms that I go to. You can argue literature, you can argue form..
Yes, there are people who believe in that "..prayer answering favor dispensing deity..."

Many people do not.

That strength can keep someone sober and for me ...abstinate...(in OA ..free from icecream, pies, cakes, cookies..etc)..No it isn't easy, but it is doable. There are many kind people to relate to, that are not into what you are talking about..Try it..
There is something, and it works..at least for me. Accept that idea that you can accept, forget the rest and work the program as best you can...
Prayer is the most personal part of it...
. ...look for that situation you feel ok with, when you see it, it will be clear. I sugggest that you do not dismiss all of us, and our meetings for ....."the idea of a prayer-answering-dispencing diety." The quietness of a walk in the forest can be your prayer and
meditation..or thinking of that quietness of a walk in the forest listening to Moonlight Sonata..can be it..The process of scilencing the
clatter in our minds is prayer sometimes..if you want it to be..but I would say...Don't give up...sobriety and clarity of mind is worth
what we need to go thru to get there.......................good luck...
Stuart