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lumberjack_jeff

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1. Complete misapprehension of the problem.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:45 PM
Mar 2013

It is as if we never discussed the concept of benevolent sexism.

Male trades (such as welder, ironworker, construction, logging, fishing, oil rig work and plumbing) exist because the general cultural assumption is that they are too dangerous, strenuous or unpleasant for women. Because of that, girls are sent to college to avoid them.

Conversely, traditionally female trades exist because of the general cultural assumptions that a) "a man can get a job in a great number of male jobs" (and should therefore not displace any women in the female trades) and b) "women are inherently more nurturing and supportive"

To the extent that supervisors discriminate on that basis, it is for benevolently sexist reasons... which arguably constitute hostile sexist reasons depending on which shoe one is wearing.

Gender segregated workplaces are definitely a problem. Whether it's nursing, teaching or ironworking and diesel mechanics. But the problem is perpetuated by refusing to recognize the reasons.

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Complete misapprehension of the problem. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #1
Women have been trying to get into the trades for decades. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #2
Nothing you just said contradicts anything I said. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #4
My dad refused to help me go to college. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #5
My dad refused to send me to college too. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #8
There are still over 60% of women in the workplace without college degrees. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #9
That isn't true today. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #10
I'm looking at the BLS numbers from 2011 too, Jeff. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #11
Me too. I provided a link. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #12
I provided a link too. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #13
kicking, read this this am. good article. bench scientist Mar 2013 #3
Thanks bench. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #6
Women in Male-Dominated Industries and Occupations in U.S. and Canada Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #7
How Single-Sex Workplaces Are Feeding Rape Culture Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #14
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