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Demo_Chris

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38. Interesting video. Made me think.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:43 PM
Jan 2013
I am going to go out on a limb here, and rather than just typing the safe "men suck" response I am going to try and put my thoughts out there....

The answer that the video seems to be suggesting is that movie companies are owned and controlled by misogynistic women haters. I think this argument falls apart when you consider it more carefully. Movies are a product. Movie companies are nothing more than an entertainment business that produces that product. They exist, not to drive an agenda, but to make money and hopefully create a little magic for their viewers. How successful they are is directly proportional to how well they satisfy the demands of their customers.

She wants to know why Hollywood isn't making movies like this. In business, the answer to every question that begins with the word 'why' is MONEY. It really is that simple.

But perhaps you are reading this and thinking: If Hollywood isn't making movies that pass this test then women viewers have no other choice but to watch the films that these companies produce. This is false for two reasons. First, people do not watch movies that don't appeal to them -- they stay home instead. Second, Hollywood IS making movies that pass this and any other test you can dream up. The American movie industry produces and distributes about two-hundred movies a year, covering every theme you can imagine. Everything from 3D chainsaws to gay cowboys, and the agenda for movie makers always remains the same:

ENTERTAINMENT!

People want to see adventure, they want romance and comedy. We want the conflict to be larger than what we experience in our everyday lives. We don't want to watch someone spill their soda and reach for a paper towel, we want to watch the Titanic sink. Despite this, we want a story that makes it easy to suspend our disbelief. We might pay to see a movie about female gladiators (good idea actually), but we probably won't bother with a movie about an all-midget NFL team winning the Superbowl.

Finally, we want a story with a motor on it. In movies or plays anything that doesn't advance the story ends up on the cutting room floor. In my mythical all-female gladiator movie the heartwarming scene where Tiffany shares her childhood ballet dancer dreams with her gladiator roommate is probably going to get cut. Unless they are wearing chainmail lingerie and having a pillow fight while they talk. And even then, it's got to be quick.

Movies that don't follow these basic rules still get made, but with only a few rare exceptions you didn't watch them. No one did. They usually weren't entertaining.

Thelma and Louise was not only entertaining, it a huge success, as was Silence of the Lambs (Academy Award for Best Actress), and Monster (Academy Award for Best Actress).

Complaining that Hollywood doesn't make more "Women Talking, But Not About Men!" movies is as silly complaining that there aren't enough sleepy seniors starring in porn.



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kick samsingh Jan 2013 #1
K and R Squinch Jan 2013 #2
wow, rec'd n/t NMDemDist2 Jan 2013 #3
Very interesting. I guess the very pervasiveness of the problem annabanana Jan 2013 #4
Yup - "click" - like when the lightbulb Mira Jan 2013 #5
The website is pretty interesting too intaglio Jan 2013 #6
The narrator Doc Holliday Jan 2013 #7
How would you present this subject as "glass half-full"? Iggo Jan 2013 #8
I still like "Clerks" secondvariety Jan 2013 #9
Wow! This is the kind of deeper understanding that needs to be part of the dialogue... NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #10
I had this same "click" moment while watching The Good Wife. enough Jan 2013 #11
One of those movies wasn't fair TlalocW Jan 2013 #12
lol . . .n/t annabanana Jan 2013 #13
Wall-E is unfair because some of the robots are feminized. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #14
Very enlightening - even movies ostensibly targeted to women don't pass that test... Richardo Jan 2013 #15
Is the other side of that different? thesquanderer Jan 2013 #18
I had talked about this phenomenon with my boyfriend before. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #16
Fascinating, duhneece Jan 2013 #17
My novel just barely passes the test nuxvomica Jan 2013 #19
If they do meet the test, I've heard men AND women call them AllyCat Jan 2013 #20
even many/most "chick flicks" the women are talking about men Hamlette Jan 2013 #23
enlightening! dooner Jan 2013 #21
R&K. For later viewing. nt longship Jan 2013 #22
Wow. ninehippies Jan 2013 #24
I'd like to see 3 categories naturallyselected Jan 2013 #25
Women in movies are generally props.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #26
Like A Little Misleading erpowers Jan 2013 #27
I noted that about X-Men as well--the two women only talk to each other... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #32
forwarded to film evaluator NJCher Jan 2013 #28
This reminds me of why I like Hiyao Miyazaki's cartoons so much starroute Jan 2013 #29
I'm not sure it actually passes the test, but... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #30
"She must mean" nah, she was pretty clear. Nice try though. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #41
A Bad Test erpowers Jan 2013 #31
It's not a bad test and here is WHY there must be two women... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #34
No, Not True erpowers Jan 2013 #39
Well said. spooky3 Jan 2013 #40
One interpretation (probably misguided) Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #33
So...Thor was a Chick Flick? Moonwalk Jan 2013 #35
Hell, I don't know. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #36
This is interesting. MyshkinCommaPrince Jan 2013 #37
Interesting video. Made me think. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #38
This is really interesting gollygee Jan 2013 #42
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