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Women Speak Drastically Less When They’re Surrounded by Dudes. And That’s Bad. [View all]
http://jezebel.com/5944642/women-speak-75-less-when-theyre-surrounded-by-dudes-and-thats-badWomanhood is full of frustrating hunches, and society is full of people who want to pooh-pooh those hunches. "I'm pretty sure I'm being treated like shit right now because of my vagina," we women say. "Shut UP, women! Because men get injured in industrial accidents! Therefore, equality reigns!" the pooh-poohers reply. There's almost nothing as satisfying as having one's hunches backed up by science. So color me delighted by this new study published in American Political Science Review, which found that, in collaborative group settings, "the time that women spoke was significantly less than their proportional representationamounting to less than 75 percent of the time that men spoke."
HA. That is just about the truest shit that I have ever heard. I (and, I suspect, pretty much any woman) can access that feeling really quickly and vividlywhen you find yourself in conversation with a circle of men and, against your better judgment and all your feminist impulses, you just turtle up. You retire. You forfeit, because their lungs are bigger, they're groomed for assertiveness since birth, and you're groomed to assume that nobody will take you seriously anyway. You wait for a pause in a room of interruptors. Sigh. I do it like crazy, and I am a fucking loudmouth feminist yelling machine.
So it's satisfying to have one's hunches backed up by a study like this: It's not just me failing at feminism, and it's not just men being paternalistic dicks, it's some sort of sinister societal force that shepherds us into those roles. This isn't just teh evil menz (blah blah blah) doing this to uswe are active participants. We are turtlers. Nothing is solved hereno one is to blame and everyone is to blamebut it's comforting, at least, to confirm that it is happening.
And it's not good. According to the study's authors, women contributed to the conversation much more when it was framed as consensus-building rather than a majority-rules vote. And when women's voices were included, the group's conclusions were profoundly different:
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Women Speak Drastically Less When They’re Surrounded by Dudes. And That’s Bad. [View all]
Starry Messenger
Sep 2012
OP
You are in the wrong place making nasty generalized statements about feminists. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2012
#12
LOL! Isn't this forum a place of making generalized statements about men?
yeswehavenobananas
Dec 2012
#25
You seem to have a mistaken impression of what DU is about. DU is not about engaging right wingers
stevenleser
Dec 2012
#26
You are attacking a posit that I never made, Library girl. DU mail me from your next incarnation...
stevenleser
Dec 2012
#32
This is why whenever I am in a meeting and there are women not speaking up or being talked over
stevenleser
Sep 2012
#11
I worked in a medium-sized company where most of the professionals and managers were women.
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2012
#20
"They're groomed for assertiveness since birth" is true of a lot of men, but not all...
YoungDemCA
Nov 2012
#21