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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
24. I call Bullshit for $200 Alex.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:22 AM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:26 AM - Edit history (1)

The underlined words are an addition to reflect the EVOLVING attitudes of progress and solidarity.

"The job of the gay community and the trans community is not to deal with extremists who would castigate us or put us on an island and drop an H-bomb on us. The fact of the matter is that there is a small percentage of people in America who understand the true nature of the homosexual and trans communities. There is another small percentage who will never understand us. Our job is not to get those people who dislike us to love us. Nor was our aim in the civil rights movement to get prejudiced white people to love us. Our aim was to try to create the kind of America, legislatively, morally, and psychologically, such that even though some whites continued to hate us, they could not openly manifest that hate. That’s our job today: to control the extent to which people can publicly manifest antigay and antitranssentiments."

From Bayard Rustin’s essay From Montgomery To Stonewall, found in the book Time on Two Crosses: The Collected Writings of Bayard Rustin


Nice try but unadulterated bullshit. You can't justify this without hurting your own credibility.

RadFem's out of control transphobia lost that venue. If RadFems are looking for someone to blame, they better take a long look in the fracking mirror because it's not just the trans people who refuse to put up with it, it's all the decent people, trans or not.

If someone identifies as a woman and others exclude her from a female only space, they're a supporting a patriarchal act that oppresses a hyper-marginalised group of women and they are bigots. PERIOD. That's who's openly "doing the MRAsses dirty work FOR them".

Conway Hall stated RadFem's discrimination breached its Terms and Conditions and breached the UK's Equality Act. If that doesn't make it clear enough for you, their big hint comparing RadFem2012 to a David Irving hate rally should. Props to Conway Hall for a fitting comparison that covered Jeffreys sick views on sterilization of the unfit and all, and the RadFem supremacist theories where some woman just ain't good enough to be considered real women.

This particular campaign persuaded Conway Hall, the conference venue, to ban me from speaking on the grounds that I "foster hatred" and "actively discriminate". On being asked to account for this, Conway Hall appeared to compare me to "David Irving the holocaust denier". The proffered evidence consists of quotes from me arguing that transgender surgery should be considered a human rights violation – hardly evidence of hate speech.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/29/transgenderism-hate-speech


Props to Conway Hall for plainly telling Sheila Jeffreys that she and her supremacist supporters "foster hatred" and they are NOT welcome.

Feminists fought very hard to pass equality laws in UK. Then a fringe subset of RadFem feminists acted against equality. The law was applied and bigotry lost. Thankfully, history is passing this bigotry by.

RadFems have sided with the Christo-Fascists and the hard core right wing in attacking Transgenders and Transsexuals by spreading hateful lies and interfering with political efforts on the part of TG/TS people to obtain the same rights and protections most people take for granted.

If a hateful, transphobic, misandrist, batshit crazy loon like Sheila Jeffreys is on that side, it's the wrong side and they can call themselves my sister all day long but I am not their sister. No ma'am. No sister of mine condones vicious hating on TS/TG women and then gets my solidarity when she cries about being bullied.

A key tenet of feminism is that our uterus doesn’t define us. What a pathetic lack of awareness to define transwomen by their lack of a uterus. The damage these RadFems have done and continue to do to the cause of women and society isn't just enormous, it's unforgivable.

Your quote "When RadFems are eliminated in a fiery rage of fourth-wave self-centeredness". All I can say is from your butthurt keyboard to God's ears.

Sterilization of the unfit is regarded with near universal opprobrium. This, I am quite sure, is the same fate that awaits the practice of transgenderism.

- Sheila Jeffreys, The Need For Feminists To Challenge The Practice Of Transgenderism

Woo-hoo! Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #1
I'm doing backflips of joy right now Catherina Jun 2012 #2
It certainly does. Zorra Jun 2012 #3
Not good, but whatever keeps us bullying one another, right? He loved Big Brother Jun 2012 #4
im torn reading this thread . angelusuk1 Jun 2012 #5
Dear Scott Catherina Jun 2012 #26
thank you , angelusuk1 Jun 2012 #29
Feminism *still* is a fantastic concept Catherina Jun 2012 #30
Many MRA groups are listed as hate groups with the SPLC obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #31
im not ashamed of who I am angelusuk1 Jun 2012 #33
This is a Safe Have Group for feminists of all gemders obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #34
Obamanut, I will stand beside you and echo your concerns. MerryBlooms Jun 2012 #35
well ill make this post my last as it seems my first impressions of this site may have been wrong . angelusuk1 Jun 2012 #37
I don't think your impressions of this site were wrong Catherina Jun 2012 #38
Thank you, Merry obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #44
I'm sure they can find the owner of a field somewhere who won't object Zorra Jun 2012 #6
Well, yeah, that appears to be their goal. JoeyT Jun 2012 #7
All the RadFem blogs I've read say the same thing. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #8
My God! Vanje Jun 2012 #9
I'm not even sure most cis guys think about theirs that much. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #11
Unless you've got a hypersexuality problem. Neoma Jun 2012 #12
Lalalalala Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #13
That made me LOL! nt Vanje Jun 2012 #14
You might enjoy this too-- Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #16
I freakin' love this! LadyHawkAZ Jun 2012 #20
I got it off tumblr, it's up to nearly 1200 shares. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #21
Thank you! n/t LadyHawkAZ Jun 2012 #22
It's perfect Catherina Jun 2012 #27
That is incredible! zappaman Jun 2012 #43
That's easy. Neoma Jun 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #18
You are related to Robert Tilton? Rex Jun 2012 #32
No... Neoma Jun 2012 #36
Same here! Currently they are somewhere in Africa. Rex Jun 2012 #42
It's astounding Catherina Jun 2012 #25
I'm not butthurt. eh? Whisp Jun 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #17
Butthurt... LadyHawkAZ Jun 2012 #19
Thank you! n/t Catherina Jun 2012 #28
I call Bullshit for $200 Alex. Catherina Jun 2012 #24
I have to disagree. LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #50
bigots do deserve to be silence irrespective of gender. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2012 #59
Bigots are bigots. Period. Fritz Jul 2012 #62
K&R Jamastiene Jun 2012 #23
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #39
yeah...right cyberswede Jun 2012 #40
THAT was your first post here!?! Rex Jun 2012 #41
Welcome to DU! rrneck Jun 2012 #45
Oh. Vanje Jun 2012 #46
I tru to keep good thoughts and rrneck Jun 2012 #48
Pffffffffffft. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #47
Someone is bored obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #49
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #51
"the malignant social cancer it has become"? Catherina Jun 2012 #52
Don't ask that poster his view on reproductive choice. cyberswede Jun 2012 #53
Thanks for finding the confirmation. I read 2 comments there and had enough Catherina Jun 2012 #54
This person has been shown the door. cyberswede Jun 2012 #55
(Breathes sigh of relief) Catherina Jun 2012 #56
Oh man. That forum. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #57
So are the PPR'd trolls in this thread all the same person or is this thread a magnet for that type? laconicsax Jun 2012 #58
We get a lot of zombies, who knows? Neoma Jun 2012 #60
I don't know Catherina Jun 2012 #61
I think there is a problem with terminology here. The conference is really for Seperatist Feminists stevenleser Jul 2012 #63
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