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In reply to the discussion: Venue Slams Hateful RADFEM2012 Conference. Thrown out! [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)24. I call Bullshit for $200 Alex.
Last edited Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:26 AM - Edit history (1)
The underlined words are an addition to reflect the EVOLVING attitudes of progress and solidarity.
"The job of the gay community and the trans community is not to deal with extremists who would castigate us or put us on an island and drop an H-bomb on us. The fact of the matter is that there is a small percentage of people in America who understand the true nature of the homosexual and trans communities. There is another small percentage who will never understand us. Our job is not to get those people who dislike us to love us. Nor was our aim in the civil rights movement to get prejudiced white people to love us. Our aim was to try to create the kind of America, legislatively, morally, and psychologically, such that even though some whites continued to hate us, they could not openly manifest that hate. Thats our job today: to control the extent to which people can publicly manifest antigay and antitranssentiments."
From Bayard Rustins essay From Montgomery To Stonewall, found in the book Time on Two Crosses: The Collected Writings of Bayard Rustin
Nice try but unadulterated bullshit. You can't justify this without hurting your own credibility.
RadFem's out of control transphobia lost that venue. If RadFems are looking for someone to blame, they better take a long look in the fracking mirror because it's not just the trans people who refuse to put up with it, it's all the decent people, trans or not.
If someone identifies as a woman and others exclude her from a female only space, they're a supporting a patriarchal act that oppresses a hyper-marginalised group of women and they are bigots. PERIOD. That's who's openly "doing the MRAsses dirty work FOR them".
Conway Hall stated RadFem's discrimination breached its Terms and Conditions and breached the UK's Equality Act. If that doesn't make it clear enough for you, their big hint comparing RadFem2012 to a David Irving hate rally should. Props to Conway Hall for a fitting comparison that covered Jeffreys sick views on sterilization of the unfit and all, and the RadFem supremacist theories where some woman just ain't good enough to be considered real women.
This particular campaign persuaded Conway Hall, the conference venue, to ban me from speaking on the grounds that I "foster hatred" and "actively discriminate". On being asked to account for this, Conway Hall appeared to compare me to "David Irving the holocaust denier". The proffered evidence consists of quotes from me arguing that transgender surgery should be considered a human rights violation hardly evidence of hate speech.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/29/transgenderism-hate-speech
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/29/transgenderism-hate-speech
Props to Conway Hall for plainly telling Sheila Jeffreys that she and her supremacist supporters "foster hatred" and they are NOT welcome.
Feminists fought very hard to pass equality laws in UK. Then a fringe subset of RadFem feminists acted against equality. The law was applied and bigotry lost. Thankfully, history is passing this bigotry by.
RadFems have sided with the Christo-Fascists and the hard core right wing in attacking Transgenders and Transsexuals by spreading hateful lies and interfering with political efforts on the part of TG/TS people to obtain the same rights and protections most people take for granted.
If a hateful, transphobic, misandrist, batshit crazy loon like Sheila Jeffreys is on that side, it's the wrong side and they can call themselves my sister all day long but I am not their sister. No ma'am. No sister of mine condones vicious hating on TS/TG women and then gets my solidarity when she cries about being bullied.
A key tenet of feminism is that our uterus doesnt define us. What a pathetic lack of awareness to define transwomen by their lack of a uterus. The damage these RadFems have done and continue to do to the cause of women and society isn't just enormous, it's unforgivable.
Your quote "When RadFems are eliminated in a fiery rage of fourth-wave self-centeredness". All I can say is from your butthurt keyboard to God's ears.
Sterilization of the unfit is regarded with near universal opprobrium. This, I am quite sure, is the same fate that awaits the practice of transgenderism.
- Sheila Jeffreys, The Need For Feminists To Challenge The Practice Of Transgenderism
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well ill make this post my last as it seems my first impressions of this site may have been wrong .
angelusuk1
Jun 2012
#37
So are the PPR'd trolls in this thread all the same person or is this thread a magnet for that type?
laconicsax
Jun 2012
#58
I think there is a problem with terminology here. The conference is really for Seperatist Feminists
stevenleser
Jul 2012
#63