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Squinch

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19. I am not suggesting coercing women to uncover their heads. I am suggesting NOT coercing them

Reply to Deep13 (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:47 PM

Mar 2014

TO cover their faces and every other aspect of their identity.

If women are coerced to cover their faces and erase every aspect of their identities, then their oppression does, indeed, have to do with their headgear. The fact that the excuse that is used to justify this is a distortion of a religious teaching has very little to do with the religion in question..

Men have not been deprived of head coverings. No one is preventing them from wearing head coverings if they want to.

And "the debate is an upper class argument" is the same as saying "first world problem." If you think it is relatively unimportant, why did you bring it up?

Since this is becoming silly, I will say good night to you.

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cartoon: women's clothing and feminism [View all] Deep13 Mar 2014 OP

Sorry. I just don't see how a niqab or burqa, being required to hide everything but your eyes Squinch Mar 2014 #1

Both extremes in this caters to either dressing to either attract and excite men or to prevent Nika Mar 2014 #4

They're not always required. Deep13 Mar 2014 #5

A necktie or a pair of pumps or a hajib is not comparable to being required to cover every Squinch Mar 2014 #8

Personally, I agree with you... Deep13 Mar 2014 #10

I don't accept that it is "usually" other women enforcing pathological levels of modesty. I Squinch Mar 2014 #11

Maybe. But people typically internalize the norms of their cultures. Deep13 Mar 2014 #12

Yes, and in those cultures, the norms are oppressive to women. Squinch Mar 2014 #13

Well, it's most cultures, but they differ by degree and nature. Deep13 Mar 2014 #14

A better question would be do people have to verbalize that they are oppressed to be oppressed: Squinch Mar 2014 #17

Not suggesting that non-Europeans can't be oppressed. Deep13 Mar 2014 #18

I am not suggesting coercing women to uncover their heads. I am suggesting NOT coercing them Squinch Mar 2014 #19

I never hear feminists telling women what to wear siligut Mar 2014 #2

perhaps, but isn't that an ad hominem attack? Deep13 Mar 2014 #6

From her blog: siligut Mar 2014 #7

Well, ad hominem means you are attacking the person, not the argument. Deep13 Mar 2014 #9

Good Conversation starter libodem Mar 2014 #3

The cartoon is a cartoon... Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #15

Yes, it is as though S.E. Cupp was assigned to write about feminism siligut Mar 2014 #16