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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
37. The problem is that it sells....
Fri May 17, 2013, 04:16 PM
May 2013

Five decades of a successful business model is very difficult to change in the eyes of a huge corporation. Yes, Disney does perhaps end up inadvertently promoting gender stereotypes...but it sells, and it still sells extremely well. Until moms and little girls stop buying into it, Disney is not going to change their ways. And that's the key right there...Disney does not have an agenda to keep women down. That's not what they are trying to do. Disney is about making money. And they are giving what their customers want. Their movies and stories are reflecting society. And it is obviously America is still quite confused when it comes to gender.

A lot of Disney's most popular stories were written in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s, during a bit of a lull in the feminist and civil rights movements. Women got the right to vote in the 20s, but then the depression and the world wars put social progress on a hold until the 1960s. Most stories written in this era in and out of Hollywood promoted strong gender roles...they had strong male protagonists and the female characters at best provide support, but usually only act as a love interest.
Those plot lines are still dominant and popular today. Disney isn't the only culprit either. 80-90% of plot lines today feature a strong male protagonist.

The gender stereotypes is something American society still can't get passed. The man is still largely considered the "head of household" and is expected to provide. Boys are pressured to have good jobs and bring home the money. Women are pressured to have babies and be the primary caregivers to the children, even to a point of putting their careers and education on hold. Even though most men and women alike support gender neutrality in social theory, putting the belief into reality is proving to be extremely difficult even in the most liberal environments. Our movies and our literature is reflecting this struggle.

In the end, corporations are going to do what sells. Companies like Disney are not anti-female. They would support strong female characters if that is what their customers demand....at this point, they do not. I agree that they should promote more characters like Merida. And perhaps the success of Brave will provoke a move in that direction. But as most people learn, change comes very slowly in society as well as the corporate world.

A choice between Brave ... DreamGypsy May 2013 #1
they made her into a garden-variety gamer 'ho Skittles May 2013 #2
Is the character's creator related to you? LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #4
I..........ER................ Skittles May 2013 #5
PLEASE DON'T KICK MY ASS! LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #6
Hawks are pretty formidable but..... Skittles May 2013 #8
I hate the after version. nt Kalidurga May 2013 #3
Kind of surprised they didn't turn her into a AsahinaKimi May 2013 #15
Yes. Here's the next version: LiberalLovinLug May 2013 #36
me too .... littlewolf May 2013 #21
amen DonCoquixote May 2013 #7
Perhaps A Disney Princess Needs To Look Like They "Work The Pole" or "Need The D". TheBlackAdder May 2013 #9
We noticed this because Tien1985 May 2013 #10
Good for Ms. Chapman... ljm2002 May 2013 #11
Can't let realistic girls impinge on Disney fantasies. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #12
...and add 10 or 15 years to her age. LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #13
But a young woman, not one old enough to have plenty of life experiences. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #14
I'm so glad she raised a stink about this. Starry Messenger May 2013 #16
Ugh. kimmylavin May 2013 #17
the fuckability quotient was too low. BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #25
REAL Merida may already have won! cactusfractal May 2013 #18
ugghh Borchkins May 2013 #19
The doll they have on the site AmyDeLune May 2013 #23
Signed the petition. n/t TDale313 May 2013 #27
As surprising as dawn Half-Century Man May 2013 #20
I still can't stand Disney MrScorpio May 2013 #22
A have NOT watch the movie, but she reminds me of the Ancient Sarmatians happyslug May 2013 #24
saving to read this later! BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #26
Um, excuse me; but it was totally sexist BEFORE the makeover. snot May 2013 #28
How is the older version Sexists? happyslug May 2013 #29
How so? SnakeEyes May 2013 #33
Sorry; to be clear, I was thinking of the whole movie, not her outfit. snot May 2013 #35
What's Really Sad erpowers May 2013 #30
Other than a different dress NewJeffCT May 2013 #31
The dress material has been changed from plain to sparkly, LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #32
More makeup, hourglass figure wtmusic May 2013 #34
The problem is that it sells.... davidn3600 May 2013 #37
Disney capitulated to the 'known' - woman as penis prop. toby jo May 2013 #38
I won't fully disagree, but the marketing is aimed to girls davidn3600 May 2013 #39
In the first one they made her look self-sufficient and powerful... Jasana May 2013 #40
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