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Behind the Aegis

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6. He is wrong about it.

Reply to MADem (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 28, 2014, 02:11 AM

Oct 2014

Our right to marry should not be reserved to the whim of voters of any state!

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Jimmy Carter disappoints on the issue of Texas and gay marriage [View all] theHandpuppet Oct 2014 OP

I know shenmue Oct 2014 #1

He is not wrong about anything--he supports gay marriage and belongs to a church that MADem Oct 2014 #5

He is wrong about it. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #6

The right of EVERYONE--gay or straight--to marry is reserved to the whim of voters of any state. MADem Oct 2014 #7

No, it is not! Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #8

Yes, it is. You need a marriage license to get married, and states--not the federal government-- MADem Oct 2014 #10

You seem to be missing the point. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #11

No, I am not missing the point. MADem Oct 2014 #12

I don't owe you an apology, you owe me one. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #13

I'm outta here. You're misrepresenting what I said and you want to fight with me. MADem Oct 2014 #14

Carter said: Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #15

Good - you don't belong here dbackjon Oct 2014 #25

That wasn't the argument that I--or Carter--was making. MADem Oct 2014 #27

What CARTER SAID dbackjon Oct 2014 #30

OK -- then "f-ck state's rights." That's your argument. MADem Oct 2014 #36

Civil Rights should NEVER be restricted by common vote dbackjon Oct 2014 #38

States' rights is a two-edged sword, that is mitigated and sometimes guided by federal intervention. MADem Oct 2014 #40

You are really twisting the notion of "states rights" here. Zenlitened Oct 2014 #42

No, I am not--I am right in line with FREEDOM TO MARRY. MADem Oct 2014 #45

Right. Everyone is "perceiving his words incorrectly" but you. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #48

Look, I support equality for all and I think Carter does too. MADem Oct 2014 #49

Hiding behind (and, frankly, distorting) Freedom To Marry's strategy... Zenlitened Oct 2014 #53

All I can say is wow. "Antics?" Hectoring and haranguing? MADem Oct 2014 #54

ENOUGH! Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #55

Self-proclaimed ally insists he knows better... Zenlitened Oct 2014 #59

"This might be an opportunity for allies to practice more listening, less lecturing" Aerows Oct 2014 #56

Thanks. Seemed worth a try. -n/t Zenlitened Oct 2014 #61

I'm impressed at how well you held your temper Aerows Oct 2014 #63

No one is denying that is how things are. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #39

That is not what Carter said. MADem Oct 2014 #43

You mean you agree with Olson when he said this? theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #44

Yes--but the way we got there is through the STATES' RIGHTS approach. MADem Oct 2014 #46

I'm done here. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #50

None of us are too stupid to understand Aerows Oct 2014 #72

? shenmue Oct 2014 #16

See post 4. It explains a lot. MADem Oct 2014 #17

Okay shenmue Oct 2014 #22

He is in favor of discrimination. dbackjon Oct 2014 #31

He doesn't "believe" anything of the sort. He simply stated a fact. MADem Oct 2014 #34

Enough is ENOUGH! theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #37

The Heritage Foundation did a great job of spreading that story around. MADem Oct 2014 #47

WRONG dbackjon Oct 2014 #24

No he does not. MADem Oct 2014 #28

Jimmy is still an Evangelical....and a very old man VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #2

I think this an issue which is being decided state by state. Currently Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #3

Doesn't change the bigoted nature of the remark. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #9

Did Jimmy Carter speak out against same sex marriage or did you hear him say Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #21

Yeah, look how well the states rights argument worked for civil rights and desegregation theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #23

Exactly dbackjon Oct 2014 #26

He said it was up to the states. Which means he supports discrimination dbackjon Oct 2014 #32

THat ALSO means that he doesn't believe that it is a Constitutional Right MNBrewer Oct 2014 #73

Yup! He doesn't believe in the 14th Amendment dbackjon Oct 2014 #74

He said it was up to the states. Which means he supports discrimination dbackjon Oct 2014 #58

I did not hear him say it was okay for Texas to ban gay marriage and he is fine with this. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #60

Direct Quote: dbackjon Oct 2014 #62

That's what he said Aerows Oct 2014 #64

I know dbackjon Oct 2014 #66

The early years? Aerows Oct 2014 #67

"If Texas doesn't want white people to marry black people, that's a right for Zorra Oct 2014 #75

Your source is a right-wing, slanted piece of shit. Learn all about "The Daily Signal" in this MADem Oct 2014 #4

First of all, I apologize for the link to that particular source theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #18

It's not your fault--they do a very good job of covering their roots. MADem Oct 2014 #19

That is exactly what he said dbackjon Oct 2014 #33

He made a statement of fact. He didn't click his heels and rub his hands together with glee. MADem Oct 2014 #35

Apparently, opinions are facts Aerows Oct 2014 #65

You are wrong and Jimmy carter is wrong. Let me repeat that, you are wrong and Jimmy Carter is wrong William769 Oct 2014 #68

Well stated. Aerows Oct 2014 #71

I'm with you there marym625 Oct 2014 #20

When states use their laws to discriminate... Zenlitened Oct 2014 #29

Generally I like Carter, but he is way off here LostOne4Ever Oct 2014 #41

he also said he didn't want the government telling churches who to marry unblock Oct 2014 #51

I don't agree with his statement. bigwillq Oct 2014 #52

Carter is way off base here Aerows Oct 2014 #57

Then he is wrong Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #69

+1 billion Aerows Oct 2014 #70

NO state, no person shall take away someone else's rights, period. As Americans we should be randys1 Oct 2014 #76

Precisely Aerows Oct 2014 #77

I learned a while back that since I am neither Gay or Black/Minority, or a Woman for that matter randys1 Oct 2014 #78

Thank you Aerows Nov 2014 #79