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In reply to the discussion: Jimmy Carter disappoints on the issue of Texas and gay marriage [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)4. Your source is a right-wing, slanted piece of shit. Learn all about "The Daily Signal" in this
link:
http://www.thenation.com/blog/179745/heritage-foundation-launching-yet-another-right-wing-news-site
Heritage Foundation Launching (Yet Another) Right-Wing News Site
Just what the world needs, right, after The Daily Caller and The Blaze and the various Brietbart outlets, not to mention NRO (and I could go on)? But today comes the announcement: On June 3, the Heritage Foundation will launch another conservative website, The Daily Signal, that purportedly will balance or subvert the complete and noxious left-wing control of all reality-based news.
Dont worry, there will also be an opinion section partly aimed at the kiddies who find Fox and The Wall Street Journal too fuddy-duddy....
Dont worry, there will also be an opinion section partly aimed at the kiddies who find Fox and The Wall Street Journal too fuddy-duddy....
Look--Jimmy Carter simply relayed a few FACTS--that marriage laws, like voting laws, are STATE issues, not federal ones (who here has a "federal" marriage license? Anyone? Bueller? And who has voted -- even in a FEDERAL election -- under anything but state or territorial voting laws?).
They took Jimmy Carter's simple statements of FACT, and presented them in such a way to suggest that he was endorsing a position.
It's how they do it.
Divide and conquer...oh so easy. We should be more attuned to this sort of attack, because it's their new strategy.
Carter is a 'religious' guy and he also does not believe that churches should be forced to officiate at marriages that go against their belief systems (who would want to patronize such bigoted faiths, anyway?) but he has said he favors equality in marriage civilly and at churches that do not discriminate--like the one HE belongs to.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/jimmy-carter-supports-same-sex-marriage-as-he-launches-his-new-bible
President Carter told Paul Brandeis Raushenbush, senior religion editor of The Huffington Post:
However, he said he drew the line, maybe arbitrarily, in requiring by law that churches must marry people.
If a church decides not to, then government laws shouldnt require them to, he said, adding his own church accepts gay members on an equal basis.
When Raushenbush pressed him about whether he believed the Bible is Gods word, Carter answered, the basic principles of the Bible are taught by God, but written down by human beings deprived of modern day knowledge. So there is some fallibility in the writings of the Bible. But the basic principles are applicable to my life and I dont find any conflict among them.
There are many verses in the Bible that you could interpret very rigidly, Carter said, and that makes you ultimately into a fundamentalist.
Homosexuality was well known in the ancient world, well before Christ was born and Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. In all of his teachings about multiple things he never said that gay people should be condemned. I personally think it is very fine for gay people to be married in civil ceremonies. (Emphasis added.)
However, he said he drew the line, maybe arbitrarily, in requiring by law that churches must marry people.
If a church decides not to, then government laws shouldnt require them to, he said, adding his own church accepts gay members on an equal basis.
When Raushenbush pressed him about whether he believed the Bible is Gods word, Carter answered, the basic principles of the Bible are taught by God, but written down by human beings deprived of modern day knowledge. So there is some fallibility in the writings of the Bible. But the basic principles are applicable to my life and I dont find any conflict among them.
There are many verses in the Bible that you could interpret very rigidly, Carter said, and that makes you ultimately into a fundamentalist.
See how they spun his position and made it seem like he was "endorsing" Texas's "right" to be bigoted? He wasn't doing that at all. He said it's a state's issue--and that is a fact. It is. Even if you get married by a federal judge, the marriage LICENSE is issued by the state where the marriage occurs.
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Jimmy Carter disappoints on the issue of Texas and gay marriage [View all]
theHandpuppet
Oct 2014
OP
He is not wrong about anything--he supports gay marriage and belongs to a church that
MADem
Oct 2014
#5
The right of EVERYONE--gay or straight--to marry is reserved to the whim of voters of any state.
MADem
Oct 2014
#7
Yes, it is. You need a marriage license to get married, and states--not the federal government--
MADem
Oct 2014
#10
I'm outta here. You're misrepresenting what I said and you want to fight with me.
MADem
Oct 2014
#14
States' rights is a two-edged sword, that is mitigated and sometimes guided by federal intervention.
MADem
Oct 2014
#40
"This might be an opportunity for allies to practice more listening, less lecturing"
Aerows
Oct 2014
#56
Did Jimmy Carter speak out against same sex marriage or did you hear him say
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#21
Yeah, look how well the states rights argument worked for civil rights and desegregation
theHandpuppet
Oct 2014
#23
I did not hear him say it was okay for Texas to ban gay marriage and he is fine with this.
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#60
Your source is a right-wing, slanted piece of shit. Learn all about "The Daily Signal" in this
MADem
Oct 2014
#4
He made a statement of fact. He didn't click his heels and rub his hands together with glee.
MADem
Oct 2014
#35
You are wrong and Jimmy carter is wrong. Let me repeat that, you are wrong and Jimmy Carter is wrong
William769
Oct 2014
#68
NO state, no person shall take away someone else's rights, period. As Americans we should be
randys1
Oct 2014
#76