Skygate 911

[superbeachnut]

60. Fake Vg diagram supported with... nothing, pilots for truth fake Vg diagram supports lies about 911

That is how they do it... pilots for truth quote mine people, make weak attacks when they should be presenting reality based evidence, instead of fake definitions from journalist for Vd. Unable to do real aerodynamics, pilots for truth quote mine their way to fake claims.

Fake claim - structural failure at 425 KEAS, they made it up out of ignorance.

pilots for truth, quote mining all the time - during Desert Storm I flew 7 sorties and did staff duties for my small unit... lol, a flying desk job, the 7 sorties were spread out during the war, and many more sorties before the war, during my staff job in Saudi Arabia, I was an active flyer in a flying staff position - you should ask before you try to make up stuff.

"I only had 7 combat support missions, I had to fly a desk the rest of the time." - superbeachnut

Not sure how this will magically make a fake Vg diagram real...

Quote mined from this paragraph about Desert Storm.

In Desert Storm it was hard to get a lot of combat missions; the war was short. A fighter could do a few missions a day. Take the length of the war and multiply by 1 to 3. Not sure about Vietnam. But if you had a year tour, you could fly 117 easy. Each unit and mission could be unique. Ask a vet. I only had 7 combat support missions, I had to fly a desk the rest of the time. Our tanker crews flew 1.5 sorties a day (average, we would take add on missions as needed).

At the time I was Chief of Safety on flying status, qualified in the KC-135. The Wing Staff picked me out of 20 possible staff members to replace the Operations Officer/Squadron Commander in Saudi Arabia, in October 1990. I flew the KC-135 from the West Coast to England first, and we lost an engine due to oil pressure over Greenland, and diverted into Iceland; they fixed the seal, and we went to England, then Saudi Arabia. I flew the jet, I was the Instructor pilot. In Saudi Arabia my desk job was Operations Officer/Squadron Commander, and more. With a small unit, we had multiple duties, each staff member had many tasks. When there was an accident I would be the Safety Officer, when crews needed training, I was the instructor pilot. I flew with the crews before Desert Storm, during Desert Storm, and on the way home; as an Instructor pilot, and Aircraft Commander. In the war, 7 flights in a month and a half adds up to over 25 hours, not a lot, but my desk job was as an active flyer, on the staff. When we the staff flew, crews would do our staff jobs, we trained everyone from Oct to Jan to fill in for our staff positions. As staff, I was also the SoF, Command Post, etc. Everything a large unit had, we had to do in house, with 15 crews, and 7 staff members, 24 hours operations from October 90 to March 1991. We did 12 hour shifts the entire time. If you want to call it a desk job, fine, but I got to fly 7 times during the war, and I flew all the way home, and flew many flight before the war.

A flying desk job is what we wanted, and not the non-flying desk job. You sure do love to quote mine, and fail.

The purpose of my paragraph was a perspective on how many sorties were flown during the first Desert Storm. My crews averaged 1.5 mission each day, they would have 60 sorties during the war, and fighter pilot might have 120. I had 7 mission during the war, and more sorties before the war. If a pilot was sick, I took his/her place. Darn desk job, but a flying desk job. And when we got home, I was still flying my desk, and I was LtCol in the KC. What is your point? You can quote mine for no reason, and fake a Vg diagram. Is that it. Is that all?


LOL, then you use a low speed jet, a T-37 and say I don't understand Vg diagrams. Yes, I posted a real, I have a real Vg diagram, real engineering, really done by engineers for the T-37, and you have a fake one. Now you compare a slow speed T-37 to a high speed 767, a failure to understand aerodynamics again. The T-37 was slow, fat wings, almost a prop plane with jets - jet engines that used noise as thrust. An underpowered trainer, slow, and you picked to make what point? lol, like your fake Vg diagram, a low performance jet, yet a real Vg diagram, your diagram is still fake. The T-37 diagram proves your diagram is fake, and you don't know why, never will; not much of an instructor core at pilots for truth, they fake the Vg diagram to fool gullible people. You missed the point again, is that why you flunked the ATP flight check.


Is this the Airbus? Nope, it is flight lead and a Weather 135 on an operational mission shot with Kodachrome, Nikon FE. two...

, my flying office, the left seat, or right seat instructor upgrading new left seat pilots...

Instead of evidence for your failed claims of structural failure, impossible speeds, you demonstrate how silly quote mining is done at pilots for truth, 13 years and no clue a 767 can go fast and hit the WTC, a feat pilots for truth brag about not being able to accomplish in the safety of a simulator.


oops, my desk flying, a Desert Shield mission, practice for the war - did the USAF turn you down? Later I flew upgrade missions with her, bet she has her ATP and is flying for a Major Airline - and you fake Vg diagrams, and do special 11.2g silly math/physics.



A sortie during Desert Storm, flying - what did the USAF tell you when they turned you down. Is that why you spread lies about 911?



A fake Vg diagram, and a fake structural failure speed. A great intro for a video of woo.